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In reply to the discussion: The Real Motivation Behind Park And Beach Smoking Bans [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)99. pretty much. but they're cutting off their nose, because if that happens where will they
exercise their moral outrage on those they consider inferior?
probably fat people, is my guess.
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people's sweaty bodies stink too, & their nasty suntan lotions. also their nasty car exhaust,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#77
Yes. It's thoughtless, inconsiderate, and disgusting. This alone is enough reason to ban
Zorra
Jul 2013
#3
I live in the country. I never see chewing gum, and rarely see dog shit, on the roadside
Zorra
Jul 2013
#116
There are all manner of activities we ban in public settings for mainly aesthetic reasons.
surrealAmerican
Jul 2013
#4
well, i do. and i'm certain i'm not the only one. plus i run a mile rather than smoke near people
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#92
i bet not. if it's visible, someone will take offense. my friend tested that theory with one
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#94
The resulting refuse does harm wildlife, and that is more than sufficient to ban it. nt
bemildred
Jul 2013
#7
except we don't ban all the plastic trash people leave laying about in public, especially at the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#81
we ban plastic products? then why do i see so many lying about? we have laws about litter,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#137
we ban the act of littering. it doesn't matter what the litter is. no one likes to sit in litter
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#141
smoking isn't banned in parks and beaches, so i'm not sure what you're talking about.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#144
if california wanted to stop *litter* they'd pass a law making butts more biodegradable (which
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#157
Yes, they should, no non-biodegradable plastic for mass production products.
bemildred
Jul 2013
#158
Even if it didn't cause cancer, it smells disgusting. That's the only justification needed.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2013
#9
I quit 10 years ago and vowed I'd never go all nanny state on those who continue to smoke.
Gidney N Cloyd
Jul 2013
#14
There's a lot of truth to that, which is why I promised myself when I quit to not be 'that guy.'
Gidney N Cloyd
Jul 2013
#35
It's a matter of self defense. You have to turn against it with all your might to quit.
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#38
And a "rationalization" thing for us smokers.... doing our best to justify the absurd.
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#48
i don't think so, actually. i think most smokers would agree that it's an unhealthy and somewhat
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#91
"Nanny state," is a way of belittiling those who complain while dodging the issue.
Deep13
Jul 2013
#31
So should we also ban McDonalds on beaches, and other things that are unhealthy?
Travis_0004
Jul 2013
#80
someone just gave you some facts; smokers die, on average, earlier. you rationalized them away.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#103
you don't seem to have followed the conversation. no, actually, you don't. smokers are paying,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#182
smokers pay EVERYTHING non-smokers pay, PLUS $33 BILLION a year in extra taxes, PLUS
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#185
I think one may be concerned with cost yet still hold human life to a higher priority
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#49
And you've just added more bullshit to the pile. Obese people cost less for the
eridani
Jul 2013
#121
Why do countries with a larger population of smokers (by ratio) have lower lung cancer rates?
Half-Century Man
Jul 2013
#89
Who doesn't like to go to the beach or park and see cigarette butts everywhere? nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#19
Actually cologne does blow around like cigarette smoke. I'm very allergic to a lot of it.
Gidney N Cloyd
Jul 2013
#25
I have few doubts you may even get one or two people to believe your allegation....
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#50
That dry cough you mention is probably a form of asthma, which often takes that form.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#41
Yeah, everybody's different. I feel sorry for people who have trouble with perfumes.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#70
Shortly after CA's smoke ban, I went to a pool hall when I was visiting there.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2013
#40
Whether inside or outside, a lungful of smoky air can be a trigger of asthma symptoms.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#45
This is what many have suspected about smoking bans like those mentioned, for a long time.
beevul
Jul 2013
#47
i'd have more sympathy if smoking weren't already illegal in almost every indoor venue.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#100
28 states ban smoking in all public places, including bars. 6 additional states ban it in public,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#119
smoking doesn't equate to enjoying trashy beaches. it doesn't equate to being a litterbug
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#135
pretty much. but they're cutting off their nose, because if that happens where will they
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#99
do you have the same trouble with campfires & weenie roasts? should those be banned too?
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#97
LIARS!The American Cancer Society and American Lung Assn have voiced support for such bans
onenote
Jul 2013
#74
If you can't drop your speedos and crap in the sand, you shouldn't smoke there. n/t
Agnosticsherbet
Jul 2013
#79
Ha ha. That is sad. I do NOT want smell that shit. Nor inhale it second hand.
geckosfeet
Jul 2013
#84
I'd think it was the cost of cleaning up butts on the ground that they would use. Even though
brewens
Jul 2013
#95
unlike car drivers, air travelers, electricity consumers, plastic consumers, coal consumers,
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#107
it has as much useful purpose as many drugs. and it's a myth that it causes illness a/o death
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#110
Use of tobacco is proven to increase some forms of measurable intelligence. Eom
TransitJohn
Jul 2013
#187
i wouldn't mind. you could ban it for cigarette filters too, there are other alternatives.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#114
it's really dumb. i suspect it puts extra money in the sodamakers' pockets, myself. if you want
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#117
OMG...is this still being discussed? People sticking cancer sticks in their mouth...
Safetykitten
Jul 2013
#149
First they came for the smokers. Then they came for the public masturbators...
Ian David
Jul 2013
#152
and people such as myself won't. i also see people who just throw pop cans and plastic bags on the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#191
Some smoking and personal choices (like abortions) are holy and sacred
The Straight Story
Jul 2013
#172
plenty of marijuana smokers are vehemently anti-tobacco. i've seen them here at du, complaining
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#192
pot isn't anymore environmentally friendly than tobacco. it depends on how it's grown. so
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#193