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76. Fighting

Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:23 AM

Jul 2013

"Fighting for votes is common to all politicians so nothing exceptional here."

...for votes is as common as fighting for the spotlight, and then there is reality: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022987698#post12

Congress has a job to do, and they can't blame it all on the President.

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Today's news from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) Obama ‘Not a Fighter’ [View all] L0oniX Jul 2013 OP

Where are the jobs?! Is that you, John Boehner? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #1

Favorite group: Barack Obama, ...yea that figures. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #3

Do you have a problem with DU'ers liking Democrats? tridim Jul 2013 #6

Nice transparency ya got going on there. Please elaborate. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #12

Do you have a problem with DU'ers liking Democrats? tridim Jul 2013 #15

Start your own op. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #18

Do you have a problem with DU'ers liking Democrats? tridim Jul 2013 #20

All of them? L0oniX Jul 2013 #24

Do you have a problem with DU'ers like JaneyVee liking Democrats? tridim Jul 2013 #38

I have a problem with children who stamp their feet Android3.14 Jul 2013 #50

LMFAO L0oniX Jul 2013 #52

I'll take that as a yes. nt tridim Jul 2013 #59

I glad you got the answer you wanted. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #73

That's fantastic. tridim Jul 2013 #62

Bait is good for fishing. Thanks for playing. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #72

Why are you being so childish tridim? Ned_Devine Jul 2013 #113

Obvious witch hunt. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #140

The BOG is a fan club. Marr Jul 2013 #25

Thanks to the powers that be ...this is GD. L0oniX Jul 2013 #28

And if you post the slightest blasphemy there, they ban you from posting again. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #112

Blasphemy? Puglover Jul 2013 #124

CORRECT Skittles Jul 2013 #121

I have a problem with DUers NOT liking Democrats. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #102

I been trying to find the "like" link MyNameGoesHere Jul 2013 #156

Personally I think it depends on why they like the Democrats. D23MIURG23 Jul 2013 #91

/\ Like /\ nt Vanje Jul 2013 #148

Big problem if they are wimps with no balls! pocoloco Jul 2013 #201

Yes they do and it's amazing how up front they are about it treestar Jul 2013 #63

I like Democratic Presidents who choose to appoint Democrats to top level Administrative positions AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #163

^^^^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #204

I like Democrats that favor the lower classes, how about you? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #172

+1 L0oniX Jul 2013 #206

+2 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #207

This isn't about "liking" anybody. MNBrewer Jul 2013 #186

Some people are confusing Facebook with DU. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #216

That's my favorite group? Don't think I've ever posted once in there. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #11

You really think I want to chat with someone who implies that wanting jobs is Boehnerish? L0oniX Jul 2013 #16

Boehner is the one voting down jobs bills, infrastructure bills, raising wages, etc. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #19

They way you worded it... L0oniX Jul 2013 #26

That was the republican mantra, even as they voted down every single jobs bill, JaneyVee Jul 2013 #37

The way I read it, she was insinuating that you actually were the Boner, posting under HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #176

Boehner is obviously worse than Obama since he never signed any job-creating "free trade" agreements AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #51

Yer a bad boy! L0oniX Jul 2013 #54

Would you rather live in John Boehner's vision for America, or Barack Obama's? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #57

Obama's obviously. He's proven that he can let war criminals go free, give money to banksters, sign AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #69

Riiiiight, check Boehner's voting record. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #77

Let me know when he lets war criminals go free. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #81

Off topic. We're talking about jobs bills. Let me know when John Boehner JaneyVee Jul 2013 #85

It's all the Republicans' fault. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author L0oniX Jul 2013 #142

Yea ...I like that. Democrats do no wrong. Too many here act like that is the case. L0oniX Jul 2013 #143

Obama calls for raising taxes on the rich, and cutting corporate subsidies. Vanje Jul 2013 #152

". . .before he even got to the negotiations. . ." Stargleamer Jul 2013 #185

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jul 2013 #94

well put. nt navarth Jul 2013 #116

+1 Bravo....n/t louslobbs Jul 2013 #127

Exactly. nt Vanje Jul 2013 #154

+1 L0oniX Jul 2013 #164

Interesting Andy823 Jul 2013 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jul 2013 #200

Thanks for the reply Andy823 Jul 2013 #208

Oh bullshit! You want praise for the POTUS you can get that in your BOG where there is no criticism. L0oniX Aug 2013 #223

So freaking true!!! Janecita Jul 2013 #194

The difference is not as vast as I'd like to see it. Vanje Jul 2013 #149

The differences do not seem to be that great. Vanje Jul 2013 #150

Sen Sander's, Rep Grayson's, Sen Wyden's, Sen Warren's, or anyone that's looking out for the people rhett o rick Jul 2013 #209

No, your posting history is tracked... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #100

Well in this case, awoke in 2003.. I can tell you that I'm a host in the Barack Obama Group Cha Jul 2013 #109

I think it comes down to differences... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #119

Why dont you post in threads that actually discuss, oh I dont know, actual issues. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #173

Why don't you quit worrying about me.. and worry about your Cha Jul 2013 #175

And I am getting sick of those here that are only here to disrupt. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #192

Bugger off. Cha Jul 2013 #193

My mouth is hanging open at this whole fucked up thread. Number23 Jul 2013 #198

LOL, I think you need to double check that Bradical79 Jul 2013 #88

I had to look at my profile to see what my favorite group was.. Peacetrain Jul 2013 #110

1 post to BoG in the last 90 days, 1 post Progressive dog Jul 2013 #136

Yes... Only John Boehner would ever say anything about jobs. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #21

Seriously? You're comparing Bernie Sanders with John Boehner? cali Jul 2013 #29

Wha? The bottom paragraph is the op's comments, not Bernie's. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #35

bzzzt. then make it clear you're referring to the OP- which YOU don't remotely do cali Jul 2013 #36

That's John BONER to you! n/t RoccoR5955 Jul 2013 #134

Bernie needs to sit down with Barack to determine the agenda Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #182

K&R For that Stasiauthoritarianquislingfascist that pisses off the authoritarians so much. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #2

lol..... go sanders n/t Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #5

Who is the "Stasiauthoritarianquislingfascist"? bunnies Jul 2013 #7

Bernie. It's sarcastic humor. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #30

Thanks. bunnies Jul 2013 #41

Another thread put up this morning by one of our most comical authoritarians. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #48

There will never be a POTUS TBF Jul 2013 #4

Capitalism needs to be tempered or balanced with some socialism. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #8

Capitalists use plenty of socialism...for themselves leftstreet Jul 2013 #46

"balanced" n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #79

We've already had a couple Presidents last century (FDR and Truman) who were for HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #181

I don't think we have too much of a choice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #9

The Republicans in the House have to go Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #177

And my newly elected democrat nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #178

Who is the idiot? Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #179

Scott peters nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #180

He needs to be spoken to Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #183

Both left and right don't like him much nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #184

Hope that he gets voted out Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #187

Why I m voting my conscience nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #191

The series of speeches ProSense Jul 2013 #10

Your concern for transaprancy and lower/middle class jobs is noted. L0oniX Jul 2013 #23

"...and Obama did not win the election " ProSense Jul 2013 #31

So you "fought" to elect someone who is not a "fighter"? Yes I did. L0oniX Jul 2013 #40

You are right Andy823 Jul 2013 #171

yes, to YOU, it's all about Obama- how popular he is and how he won re-election. cali Jul 2013 #33

Yes, I support the President who some say did nothing to "win the election" ProSense Jul 2013 #39

You are right ...he got elected without the little people voting for him. Fighter indeed. L0oniX Jul 2013 #42

So he was picking his nose the entire campaign, not fighting? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #60

Fighting for votes is common to all politicians so nothing exceptional here. L0oniX Jul 2013 #68

Fighting ProSense Jul 2013 #76

"can't blame it "all" on the President" Well then at least he can take the blame for something. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #78

Yes, not conceding more ground to gut food stamps after the Senate cuts. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #80

"Fighting for votes" versus fighting for principles BlueStreak Jul 2013 #107

Dean? Warren? Grayson? Sanders? dreamnightwind Jul 2013 #137

This isn't a war, this is politics, there are enforceable rules. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #138

We was better than the other guy. But not a great liberal. Gullible as hell about the GOP. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #158

One of the biggest ProSense Jul 2013 #159

Your standards must be low. Most expected much much more! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #160

Obama is the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. tridim Jul 2013 #55

Please make an effort to understand that Obama is not God. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #64

He's the President of the United States, not a king, not a god, not a Republican. tridim Jul 2013 #65

Lots of caps makes an impression. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #71

He won the re-election because the requisite number of voters chose him treestar Jul 2013 #66

No argument here ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #199

Joseph Stiglitz G_j Jul 2013 #13

Bernie is wrong mick063 Jul 2013 #14

Indeed. Why would Obama be a fighter when cprise Jul 2013 #145

too bad Sanders voted for ATRA as well hfojvt Jul 2013 #17

So you've sunk to the level of throwing Sen Sanders under the bus. For what? Do you rhett o rick Jul 2013 #174

What bus? hfojvt Jul 2013 #197

I am not sure what your point is here but I have seen Sen Sanders speak out for the people many rhett o rick Jul 2013 #203

Yes … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #221

Whoever replied, I have you on ignore. Have a good day. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #222

LOL! This was a newsflash in 2009! WinkyDink Jul 2013 #22

Please say poor and working poor. ananda Jul 2013 #27

Indeed. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #32

Bernie doesn't fight hard enough. frazzled Jul 2013 #34

horseshit. In the Senate, Bernie is doing much the same as he did in the House cali Jul 2013 #43

+1 tblue Jul 2013 #99

+1 JoePhilly Jul 2013 #45

Fighting only for what you think you can get is exactly what got us where we are today. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #210

he sure can pontificate and sound all "presidenty" and stuff. datasuspect Jul 2013 #44

Can anyone really compete with Obama sounding all "presidenty" and stuff? n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #49

a statesman would put obama to shame. datasuspect Jul 2013 #53

Indeed. Honey Boo Boo is the future. L0oniX Jul 2013 #56

president camacho is our future datasuspect Jul 2013 #58

After Palin it sure seems that way. tblue Jul 2013 #101

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #47

How is that going to get Republicans to vote for something? treestar Jul 2013 #61

Sanders is THE best person on the Hill, bar none. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #67

What has Bernie fought for? Anything? What has he gained? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #83

You're going to blame him for the corporate assholes in the Senate? MrSlayer Jul 2013 #125

Why not? Obama is being blamed for Republicans in the Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #126

Because it doesn't need to be said about Republicans. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #130

Does everyone really know what the Republicans are doing? Reading the comments from a lot Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #165

If Bernis is so awesome, he should be able to single-handedly effect change. bluestate10 Jul 2013 #167

Amen! tblue Jul 2013 #98

+1 You can't vote Goldman Sachs out of office. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #146

Obama is a fighter...for the corporate elite. Broward Jul 2013 #70

+1000 forestpath Jul 2013 #128

I love Bernie. I sometimes see him walking on Capitol Hill Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #74

+1 SunSeeker Jul 2013 #106

yeah, I don't need Bernie to tell me anything about the President.. Cha Jul 2013 #114

I'd like to hear Sanders call the Republicans 'fascists,' which is what they and their supporters HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #188

Wow...breaking news. The Link Jul 2013 #75

I respect Bernie Sanders. But even if Bernie were president think Jul 2013 #82

Maybe. But he would fight to the bitter end tblue Jul 2013 #104

Fighting to the bitter end is what it is going to take. think Jul 2013 #108

Obama is a Centrist politician safeguarding the establishment. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #84

^^^^this^^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #141

The President No Longer Fights For Me And Probably Most Of Us cantbeserious Jul 2013 #86

I realized that when he put the chained cpi shit on the table. 3rd rail death! L0oniX Jul 2013 #147

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau gets busy ProSense Jul 2013 #89

Cult of Personality: I smelled trouble in 2008 when Obama said Clean Coal and More Nukes ErikJ Jul 2013 #90

Yea the "clean coal" crap wasn't enough to stop me from voting for him but what a load of shit. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #96

We didn't have a lot of choices in '08 FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #97

Even fewer in 2016, it seems. BlueStreak Jul 2013 #111

We got what the corporate media wanted to give us. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #120

I know. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #122

Props to you, Cassandra! I too was uneasy with Obama's declared aim to escalate HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #190

Not true! He's just waiting for his second term to take the gloves off! Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #92

Bernie Sanders: Obama Takes Oath for 2nd Term ProSense Jul 2013 #93

What! Obama gave a speech! Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #105

"he's only had 1652 days!" n/t MisterP Jul 2013 #123

Obama not a fighter?? Vietnameravet Jul 2013 #95

More like the Washington Generals. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #117

KandR "Corporate wuss" -- great description. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #103

Bernie is doing Brooklyn ego here: flamingdem Jul 2013 #115

yeah, Bernie says when he supports the President as opposed to those Cha Jul 2013 #144

lol well you might want to ask the Clintons, the McCains, and the Romneys about that. grantcart Jul 2013 #118

Bernie is missing the whole point - Obama doesn't CARE about the middle class. forestpath Jul 2013 #129

Like we needed anyone 2 tell us "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility Catherina Jul 2013 #131

That's news??? cui bono Jul 2013 #132

Blasphemy! JoeyT Jul 2013 #133

Bernie stop whining you're sounding like Rand Paulie BrainMann1 Jul 2013 #135

be a good german? upi402 Jul 2013 #153

Senator Sanders, you should have used harsher terms. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #139

Bernie is polite upi402 Jul 2013 #151

The whole leadership is to blame 4dsc Jul 2013 #155

Ain't that the truth. truebluegreen Jul 2013 #157

Bernie supports basing the F-35 in South Burlington, VT/ he's not a fighter either vt_native Jul 2013 #161

I call bullshit on Bernie Sanders and his echoes on DU rury Jul 2013 #162

Many here on DU want a dictator. Or they don't fucking understand the Constitution bluestate10 Jul 2013 #169

. LWolf Jul 2013 #205

Bernis is in Congress, that is where the votes are. Why doesn't he convince republicans bluestate10 Jul 2013 #166

Since when has that worked? bobduca Jul 2013 #170

he may be Lone Ranger Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #189

k&r avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #195

I disagree. He has been an aggressive fighter woo me with science Jul 2013 #196

We had a choice between a radical Wall Street teabagger INdemo Jul 2013 #202

A stagnant quagmire nolabels Jul 2013 #214

My thinking was that President Obama INdemo Jul 2013 #217

Many here were depicting a game of multidimensional chess nolabels Jul 2013 #218

Obsessive worshipper desperation. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #219

The Presidency has become a figurehead position. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #211

Yea ...that is definitely suspect. (You can't vote Goldman Sachs out of office - repeat daily) L0oniX Jul 2013 #212

All the major players seem to transcend the change of presidents. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #213

I agree with Bernie. DLevine Jul 2013 #215

Honorable Senator Sanders … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #220