The bottom line is NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS AT ALL as long as cops think pot smoking may be involved. (Reply #7)

In the discussion thread: According to your opinion, are non consensual cavity searches a form of sexual assault? [View all]

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Mon Aug 5, 2013, 04:33 PM

Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)

7. The bottom line is NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS AT ALL as long as cops think pot smoking may be involved.

I mean, let's cut to the chase. That's what all these roadside cavity searches in Texas are about. "Got a bag of weeeeeed in there, dontcha"

It's the drug war, and it's been turned into a blank check for Law Enforcement to do whatever the fuck they want, whenever they want.

The woman in the Family Court who was assaulted and the Family Court judge didn't give a shit? She "needed" a "drug search". No reason, she just did. Gotta CHECK FER DRUGZ!

The fundamental conceit of the drug war is that the government owns your body and can tell you what you can or can't do with it. So of course they can probe every inch of it to check for prohibited psycho-alterants.

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56 replies	Author	Time	Post
According to your opinion, are non consensual cavity searches a form of sexual assault? [View all]	ZombieHorde	Aug 2013	OP
absofuckinglutely.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#1
Warrant, or ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#4
They'd never get my consent.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#5
They might without you knowing it ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#6
And what does that have to do with penetrating my orifices?	bunnies	Aug 2013	#8
It has to do with searching your person ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#9
Ive never been handed a consent agreement by police.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#12
Nope, but ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#14
Consent for physical violation...	bunnies	Aug 2013	#16
Consent to personal search ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#17
Are you a woman?	bunnies	Aug 2013	#18
No; a man ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#26
A cop vs a doctor.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#29
Damn straight.	ZombieHorde	Aug 2013	#31
Agreed, but ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#41
The cops have been fired...	bunnies	Aug 2013	#43
Sorry ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#49
non-consentual searches are not legit.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#50
You equate giving your doctor permission to check your prostate to being pulled over and assaulted	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#35
Those are not common in sexual assaults? W.T.F?	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#20
Advice (yours): I think you need to do some research about rape, including talk ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#28
Good grief. You are changing the goal posts, aren't you?	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#34
No, I'm ....	Koios	Aug 2013	#37
My experience has ranged from being groped to beaten and raped so don't try what you are trying to	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#40
...	bunnies	Aug 2013	#47
"consent to personal search is pretty subjective"? So "No" can mean "yes"?	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#42
The point I am taking away from your post is	ZombieHorde	Aug 2013	#10
Yes, but ...	Koios	Aug 2013	#13
Sexual assault, police brutality, and violation of public trust	Yavin4	Aug 2013	#2
Yeah, what else can they be described as?	MrSlayer	Aug 2013	#3
The bottom line is NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS AT ALL as long as cops think pot smoking may be involved.	Warren DeMontague	Aug 2013	#7
"The fundamental conceit of the drug war is that the government owns your body and can tell you	limpyhobbler	Aug 2013	#39
...	RedCappedBandit	Aug 2013	#55
COPS ARE RAPING WOMEN IN TEXAS. story below	trueblue2007	Aug 2013	#11
Unless there is a ticking time bomb inside, yes.	randome	Aug 2013	#15
I don't like the idea of them being used for spurious reasons, but...	JVS	Aug 2013	#19
If you manipulate or touch my sexual parts without my permission, how is it not	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#23
The courts are not going to care about your feelings or your consent	davidn3600	Aug 2013	#25
Because I'd have to interpret the act of searching as sexual intercourse to make it fit the statute.	JVS	Aug 2013	#27
Definition of sexual assault.	bunnies	Aug 2013	#32
Technically, doesn't it have to be	Nevernose	Aug 2013	#21
So if a guy does not ejacultae, it can not be rape? Is this what you are asking?	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#22
I think the technical definition	Nevernose	Aug 2013	#33
Thanks for the in depth answer. I guess my issue is that sexual assault can and is not about	uppityperson	Aug 2013	#38
stick your finger up someone's nose and see what the law calls it	elehhhhna	Aug 2013	#36
Yes they are	Aerows	Aug 2013	#24
Of course they are.	Brigid	Aug 2013	#30
Well, they are an assault.	LWolf	Aug 2013	#44
If they're done out in the open like those cases here in Texas, YES	derby378	Aug 2013	#45
man, i knew before i opened this thread, there'd be some fool defending this shit...	KG	Aug 2013	#46
It gets more reich-wing every day, it seems.	Egalitarian Thug	Aug 2013	#54
Damn sure is	madokie	Aug 2013	#48
You'd better be under arrest, in a sterile facility, and the search performed by a medical	MADem	Aug 2013	#51
No, 'assault' but not 'sexual' assault.	elleng	Aug 2013	#52
How about I just go with it sucks, it needs to stop	mythology	Aug 2013	#53
If some random stranger on the street did it, would it be sexual assault?	RedCappedBandit	Aug 2013	#56

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