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B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
68. You do show excellent restraint in terms of anger. And manage to stay away from ad hominem!
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 02:38 PM
Aug 2013

Nonetheless, I would again suggest that you look in the mirror, especially if this is the way you respond to "today's educationally challenged students" or, what you seem to assume in my case, "the ignorant."

I've worked with students at every level from 7th grade to post-docs in both public and private settings over the past thirty years and am currently teaching at one of the most diverse state university campuses in the nation. And yes, I have graded AP's, taught SAT prep courses and worked on standardized testing reform with New York State legislators (through NYACAC) and as a director of college counseling and all the rest (not sure how you equate "social promotions" with standardized testing). But I really don't think that this is about a credentials pissing contest.

Instead, I'm still curious as to what's different about the challenge you think today's student presents and which you are, apparently, in the business of fixing. Since "The Cave" teachers have been moving to dispel ignorance (as fraught as is Socratic method) in response to a spectrum of subjectivity. You imply community, yet the sense your rhetoric gives is that this community merely forms in agreement with your perspective. I fail to see how a pedagogy of "us and them" is anything but a performative re-inscription of that which you claim to abhor.

Your passion is admirable; your adherence to binaries, disturbing. So, I'd watch my fucking mouth if I were you: your students aren't quite as oblivious as you seem to think.

Funny story if nothing else. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #1
Good for him! LeftofObama Aug 2013 #2
Hopefully the publicity dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3
kr. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #4
Delish! DeSwiss Aug 2013 #5
I hope not! chervilant Aug 2013 #13
LOVE this kind of irony! And it, too, fortifies the blood! calimary Aug 2013 #27
That is why I use cast irony skillets. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #55
ROFL! calimary Aug 2013 #61
Sweet! Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #6
+1. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #7
OMFG how clever! I'm going to dedicate my life for the next couple of days promoting this. K&R. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #8
That magnificent bastard. Oakenshield Aug 2013 #9
fuck would that not be awesome if he does? Volaris Aug 2013 #11
But then you can alter those terms. tclambert Aug 2013 #14
Solipsistic Argument? BlueManFan Aug 2013 #49
Thanks. Except that wasn't the word I meant. Blast it. tclambert Aug 2013 #56
Certainly Points for Sophistry But Solipsism (istic) Is A Triple Word Score..... BlueManFan Aug 2013 #63
If you think so "highly" of your students, why do you bother to teach? B Stieg Aug 2013 #60
What A Ridiculous Statement. Your Reply Proves The Exception To My Compliment About du Readers BlueManFan Aug 2013 #64
You do show excellent restraint in terms of anger. And manage to stay away from ad hominem! B Stieg Aug 2013 #68
Just re-watched the movie "Perfect Score" about stealing the SAT answers. tclambert Aug 2013 #69
Actually that wouldn't work. Stonepounder Aug 2013 #41
not nearly enough ...... dothemath Aug 2013 #31
The figure isn't arbitrary caraher Aug 2013 #40
I love it!!! B Calm Aug 2013 #10
Ha! PotatoChip Aug 2013 #12
Good for him! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #15
Delish malaise Aug 2013 #16
If they don't pay up CJCRANE Aug 2013 #17
Haha! My new hero! City Lights Aug 2013 #18
Russian man, Russian bank, this ain't America. Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #19
plus, if it was ............... dothemath Aug 2013 #32
I clicked on this thread to suggest he wear a condom. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #20
What I want to know is... Lancero Aug 2013 #58
Dude!!! ...Awesome burn! L0oniX Aug 2013 #21
Good for him... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #22
Fun! Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #23
.. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #24
I like it! malthaussen Aug 2013 #25
I hope he gets every penny the terms say he deserves. AndyA Aug 2013 #26
I hope he gets every dime! CrispyQ Aug 2013 #28
This is the kind of instability we do not like...President Dimon/Obama Safetykitten Aug 2013 #29
Delicious. Turbineguy Aug 2013 #30
I just love a happy and feel good story like this! Amimnoch Aug 2013 #33
That is brilliant krispos42 Aug 2013 #34
Ha! Love it. K&R closeupready Aug 2013 #35
So now Tinkoff Credit Systems is Ticked-off Credit Systems. benld74 Aug 2013 #36
K&R meow2u3 Aug 2013 #37
Hilarious blackspade Aug 2013 #38
Oh SNAP. Oh please let him win. n/t Butterbean Aug 2013 #39
Bravo Blaspherian Aug 2013 #42
I guess I can take it for granted people are pissed at the banks. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #43
What? I'm shocked! Saviolo Aug 2013 #44
A great way to fight banks & all corporations TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #45
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #46
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #47
Nice, but the only person that will be punished by this is low-level employee that signed it. n/t Dawgs Aug 2013 #48
I'm taking out a loan next week...I should try that. Auntie Bush Aug 2013 #50
This is great GoldenMezzoDiva Aug 2013 #51
Man bites dog. caseymoz Aug 2013 #52
I guess I need to save Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #53
Breach of contract,pure and simple,now lets get to the punitive stage! Rain Mcloud Aug 2013 #54
I give it a month... Lancero Aug 2013 #57
I cannot wait to try this. 4dsc Aug 2013 #59
wonderful Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #62
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #65
Outstanding! Flatulo Aug 2013 #66
I did that to a company selling timeshares in condos TrogL Aug 2013 #67
In Russia, fine print benefits YOU. KurtNYC Aug 2013 #70
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