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Whisp

(24,096 posts)
19. This has nothing to do with the Constitution and every thing to do with
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:05 AM
Aug 2013

Fuck Ron Paul and his tactics of harming this administration. Like all the other scandals this is bullshit - unfortunately it's sticking longer than it should because by golly gee when we's talking about freedumbs then people go berserk because that's only an American think, this freedumb stuff, no one else in the world really understands it like Americans.

That's the fish line bait Paul cast out and whoa, the bites are astounding.

Snowden, Greenwald, Poitras, Assange, the Pauls - all these assholes are of the Fuck Ron Paul cloth. That should raise alarms and flags.

Well there used to be another political faction in favor of civil liberties you know NoOneMan Aug 2013 #1
Yeah, ProSense Aug 2013 #5
I forgot to include this ProSense Aug 2013 #11
Oh hey, East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #126
Don't read them ECP, because facts are just awful. tridim Aug 2013 #141
What facts? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #153
Here's another ProSense Aug 2013 #149
Nobody cares about Ron Paul. I cannot understand your fixation on him Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #157
The Constitution doesn't belong to a faction. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #2
The leak was an attempt to bolster the libertarian brand?? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #3
because people from all walks of life bought the Pet Rock? n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #9
I said political life. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #15
Pretty much anyone ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #30
Because it should be UP TO US TO WHO WE CHOSE TO DISCLOSE WHAT! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #41
Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #70
They dont colect everything like the NSA does! and if i dont want darkangel218 Aug 2013 #79
The NSA is purchasing this information? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #139
who else? nebenaube Aug 2013 #179
It was and you did. You agreed to the terms of service. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #72
Terms of service which are fully disclosed. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #81
For my previous response ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #76
Enjoy your spying. To each their own i guess. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #83
So, if I agree to allow a third party, for example a house cleaner, to enter Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #112
That poster will not respond to actual questions. The meme he pushes is frightening, consent is the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #122
The housecleaner can tell the government or anyone treestar Aug 2013 #125
Yes, but that was not the claim that was made. Have I ceded my 4th amendment rights? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #128
No. treestar Aug 2013 #217
If the housekeeper is in possession of my information the government needs a Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #221
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #22
Im glad you find our Constitution funny. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #51
Did you feel the same way when GOP congress INSTITUTIONALIZED it years before blm Aug 2013 #67
Yes i did. And Obama couldve changed it, but he didnt. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #69
When? When in the last 4 years did Obama accumulate the power base to blm Aug 2013 #183
Well-said. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #216
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #84
"there is no constitutional violation" darkangel218 Aug 2013 #86
No constitutional violation? What constitutes a violation of the Constitution for you? RC Aug 2013 #133
i know, right? this thread is heading for the dungeon imo elehhhhna Aug 2013 #12
Are you denying the facts/links related to Assange, Greenwald and the Pauls? ProSense Aug 2013 #14
Also, ProSense Aug 2013 #21
please know that I don't give a hoot about S's motives, elehhhhna Aug 2013 #26
The name calling says otherwise. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #53
pretty accurate name RetroLounge Aug 2013 #222
The NSA defenders Mnpaul Aug 2013 #165
Yep we all can play the framing game. It's become childish. L0oniX Aug 2013 #192
Why are you still paying attention to the obsessive reframer behind the curtian? L0oniX Aug 2013 #188
The grapes have been really sweet this year. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #4
Thanks.. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #162
this OP is meant to bolster the libertarian meme. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #6
Those dots are so connected they make up one big lump of libertarian shit. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #7
Umm, democrats give a shit about the Constitution too, you know. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #10
This has nothing to do with the Constitution and every thing to do with Whisp Aug 2013 #19
BS is has nothing to do with the Constitution!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #20
The Pauls are using that weak spot for their own benefit Whisp Aug 2013 #61
That may end up being the consequence. kentuck Aug 2013 #8
Easy solution, of course. woo me with science Aug 2013 #13
You win this thread. elehhhhna Aug 2013 #27
Or what: ProSense Aug 2013 #35
OFFS ...off the deep end. L0oniX Aug 2013 #98
No, what was the point of the comment in the context of the OP? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #101
To convince people to not care about government spying on us because that helps ron paul. L0oniX Aug 2013 #107
That was the point of the poster's comment? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #108
Of course ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #37
... woo me with science Aug 2013 #57
Ok I am using that pic L0oniX Aug 2013 #103
Me too! kentuck Aug 2013 #105
You win the thread! neverforget Aug 2013 #111
No disidoro01 Aug 2013 #80
Its not nice to share. obxhead Aug 2013 #106
No! Dirty Libertarians support those. We need our own pet issue... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #154
Precisely. n/t ljm2002 Aug 2013 #172
If true, it is only because Democrats have ceded the ground on protecting civil liberties. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #16
As I said ProSense Aug 2013 #18
As I said, virtually no DUer I know is in support of Rand Paul. But many of us are horrified at Dems hlthe2b Aug 2013 #54
Issues disidoro01 Aug 2013 #89
Even if you buy the premise that the libertarians "won" on this issue somehow Pholus Aug 2013 #17
Despite the attempts, no one is rushing into Rand Paul's camp. ProSense Aug 2013 #23
Precisely, because despite the insinuations we are all Democrats here. Pholus Aug 2013 #29
What does that have to do with the OP? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #31
I will presume you're not being deliberately obtuse. Pholus Aug 2013 #38
Oh please, that's ProSense Aug 2013 #49
I'm just going by what other posters are saying. Pholus Aug 2013 #64
I guess ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #43
...and then there's the Dems going right along with the Bush/repuke NSA DHS cause. L0oniX Aug 2013 #124
It is only the timing of our "republican support" that offends. Pholus Aug 2013 #151
You say, "no one is rushing into Rand Paul's camp"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #175
Really? ProSense Aug 2013 #178
PO is "suffering the consequences" because he chooses to. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #24
The "confusion" BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #32
Have you been missing out on the FISA deliberations? Pholus Aug 2013 #45
Did you miss Civics class again? BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #88
My Senator (Udall), who has been waving his arms about this for years, truebluegreen Aug 2013 #131
Thank you! Pholus Aug 2013 #142
No problem. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #148
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding! ^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #120
I Smell LaRouchies... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #25
I think that's a reasonable suspicion. ucrdem Aug 2013 #28
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #50
Could be. But they're still Republicans ucrdem Aug 2013 #60
Only Rand Paul fanatics could possibly oppose NSA spying techniques. dairydog91 Aug 2013 #33
Ok! You convinced me! hootinholler Aug 2013 #34
lmao!!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #46
But we already knew all about these programs since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #36
The publication of the Verizon warrant. randome Aug 2013 #40
Eh, I'm just giving the talking points from a couple of months ago Fumesucker Aug 2013 #63
You're right, too much secrecy -and duplicity- breeds mistrust. Always. randome Aug 2013 #77
That's a problem old enough there is a Latin phrase for it Fumesucker Aug 2013 #93
"the quickest way for Obama to make this go away is to be candid and forthright about it." No, see stevenleser Aug 2013 #85
We have been lied to on a massive scale before regarding intelligence Fumesucker Aug 2013 #114
That's nice. I even mostly agree. But it doesn't address your point to which I responded. stevenleser Aug 2013 #119
Look, we all know for a fact Obama is lying about one major aspect of domestic policy Fumesucker Aug 2013 #143
Personally, I thought the leak was a Benghazi-esque part of the Rand Paul campaign. Coyotl Aug 2013 #39
A Ratfuck from start to finish. And just look at how many fools swallowed it whole. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #42
One Presumes The Clapper Lies Were A Figment Of Imagination cantbeserious Aug 2013 #52
or that one doesn't know that Clapper was placed in a lying position but fuck facts, best to chase uponit7771 Aug 2013 #62
One Presumes That One Knows Not Of Nuremberg cantbeserious Aug 2013 #66
...or that more than enough know to NOT ask certain questions in public of secret agencies but again uponit7771 Aug 2013 #75
So The Excuse Is That American Citizens Do Not Need To Know - Hello, Democracy cantbeserious Aug 2013 #90
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #59
Wyden is a randroid mole? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #127
Where are the singing cats? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #44
Theyre here. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #47
That is not right. randome Aug 2013 #55
Cheers! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #56
Have an awesome day, Vinnie!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #65
Keep Dreaming cantbeserious Aug 2013 #48
Rich Lowry?! If you're going to source a RWer, Quantess Aug 2013 #58
So you're implying that RWers aren't allowed to hype RWers? ProSense Aug 2013 #68
I can't take Rich Lowry seriously. That is what I am saying. (no text) Quantess Aug 2013 #71
The whistleblowing was an attempt to show the government is LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #73
Thanks ProSense Iliyah Aug 2013 #74
No, the leak was an attempt to preserve democracy. Octafish Aug 2013 #78
Martin Luther fights were also a plot to bolster Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #121
Labels and Propaganda. Misinformation and Disinformation - From the Toolkit of the Ruling Class. Octafish Aug 2013 #189
I see you're still searching for that 4th tactic. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #82
. ProSense Aug 2013 #87
That is still the second tactic. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #92
Speaking of conspiracy theories: NuclearDem Aug 2013 #96
Speaking of deflection ProSense Aug 2013 #104
Still a mustread: NuclearDem Aug 2013 #110
They have a brand? You mean those anti tax banner carriers and the 1% of primary voters Paul Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #91
Tell that to Assange, Greenwald and Snowden. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #94
If you feel the need, you should do so. I'm telling it to you, the DUer claiming this 'brand' exists Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #117
"The brand is Republican Brand." So Assange and Greenwald support Republicans? ProSense Aug 2013 #123
There are treatments for obsessive compulsive disorders. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #95
Rich Lowry burnodo Aug 2013 #97
Can you believe it? Quantess Aug 2013 #207
the leak was an attempt at undermining the obama brand BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #99
This post violates the Statement of Purpose for the General Forum - NO Conspiracy Theories - Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #100
No, it doesn't. It's an opinion, but I can see why it's important to deflect from ProSense Aug 2013 #102
So it appears.... Tikki Aug 2013 #109
lolololol BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #113
Now THIS thread is flamebate. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #115
Well someone has to convince us all that the NSA and DHS loves us. L0oniX Aug 2013 #129
Here: ProSense Aug 2013 #132
Wait, I'm convinced. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #137
I didn't expect this when I signed on to Linkedin. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #186
POS heaven05 Aug 2013 #116
Per Rand Paul the NSA Iliyah Aug 2013 #118
Not to mention the ACLU brand, the Anmesty International Brand, and a few others. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #130
But the Democratic Party isn't on that list NuclearDem Aug 2013 #134
Good catch. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #156
Those are all Ron Paul front groups! Under the bus with them! nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #155
It's political espionage. gulliver Aug 2013 #135
The Pauls are like clockwork: They'll instantly leap upon the outrage of the day Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #136
The desperation is smelling thick this morning. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #138
Yeah, calling out pro-Paul Assange and Greenwald is wrong. ProSense Aug 2013 #140
especially when you just make it up burnodo Aug 2013 #159
The downplaying is an attempt to cover Democratic ass. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #144
Probably. AppetiteForApathy Aug 2013 #145
"the leak" was an attack on the obama brand BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #146
This is conspiracy theory limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #147
This was not a leak.... midnight Aug 2013 #150
As was the Iraq war which Libertarians oppose as well!! Damn Libertarians!!! nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #152
Another fallacy ProSense Aug 2013 #158
Hillarious, you don't even know what you are arguing.... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #166
Really? ProSense Aug 2013 #169
And? Again, what are you arguing? Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #201
"Try, really try, to be fucking SPECIFIC. " ProSense Aug 2013 #206
The Pauls don't represent all Libertarians. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #196
Assange and Greenwald like them. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #197
Big fucking whoop. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #200
Actually, ProSense Aug 2013 #205
There needs to be push back from the libertarians Mnpaul Aug 2013 #160
I know who the OP's REAL heroes are AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #161
No, I ProSense Aug 2013 #163
I support an America that sticks to its principles, cares about its people... AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #190
I thought Paul was a Republican leftstreet Aug 2013 #164
Who cares who leaked the information and for what theoretical ulterior motive? Maedhros Aug 2013 #167
I do, and misinformation is not cool. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #168
misinformation is not cool. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #173
That's not what Senators Wyden or Udall says: neverforget Aug 2013 #176
From Wyden's statement ProSense Aug 2013 #184
I found this part especially telling: neverforget Aug 2013 #185
Congress can fix that, which is addressed by the reform proposed. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #193
And President Obama needs to support the reforms. neverforget Aug 2013 #194
Post hoc ergo propter hoc... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #170
"I can't help but think that you are the cause of this problem Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #180
I admire you PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #181
You have ProSense Aug 2013 #203
I am quite happy... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #204
And I'm quite happy calling out Rand Paul ProSense Aug 2013 #208
as sure as the sun appears to rise in the east, avoid the message by attacking the messenger nt msongs Aug 2013 #171
Beating a dead horse into a bloody pulp. mick063 Aug 2013 #174
You mean they were politiking? Rex Aug 2013 #177
Damn. There sure are a lot of libertarian Democrats in Congress! David Krout Aug 2013 #182
It would take a true idiot to buy the pile of shit you're trying to sell. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #187
Now how did I know this was you? dkf Aug 2013 #191
Is it because of the name attached to the OP? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #195
I just read the title of the piece and I already know. dkf Aug 2013 #198
LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #202
I sense that it may be so. moondust Aug 2013 #199
I knew that from the beginning when Whiny libertarian, ed snowden, was Cha Aug 2013 #209
Keep failing to catapult the ProPaganda! bobduca Aug 2013 #210
The Pauls and the Leakers Are All Fond of Each Other ProSense Aug 2013 #211
Association fallacy bobduca Aug 2013 #212
Is that a "blue link"? ProSense Aug 2013 #213
I think Assange is wrong bobduca Aug 2013 #214
You're right about Assange. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #223
I agree that may have been one of the reasons. Number23 Aug 2013 #215
Cool CT! Do tell more, don't just stop half way, please! idwiyo Aug 2013 #218
What insipid drivel. TransitJohn Aug 2013 #219
Another win for the Koch brothers. Get ready. freshwest Aug 2013 #220
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