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In reply to the discussion: Nader blabbering on MSNBC. Still not apologizing for Bush. [View all]randome
(34,845 posts)84. We can't blame the media for all our setbacks.
Fine. The media is against us. If you go with that, then we have to try harder. It's that simple.
Yes, Gore did make Gonzalez an issue when he said he didn't want to return the boy to Cuba. It looked like pandering to the 'don't-go-soft-on-Cuba' crowd when the only humane thing to do was to return the boy.
And maybe Clinton did him no favors but Gore did seem hesitant to embrace Clinton too much, primarily because he was afraid to embrace someone who got a blowjob in the Oval Office.
With all these negative items swirling around him, Gore STILL should have won the election. He would have if he had tried harder.
He hesitated and then the gnats (corporate media, Supreme Court, Nader, etc.) brought him down.
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Yeah, that always slips their minds. Anyone who refuses to admit that Nader, at a bare minimum ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2012
#35
if he ran a good campaign there would never be an issue as to why it was so close...
Javaman
Feb 2012
#132
Even more simple. If Nader had not run, the SCOTUS would have appointed Bush anyway
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Feb 2012
#124
This man was a state senator, a US Senator, and the majority of a term as President
TheKentuckian
Mar 2012
#165
If Gore lost Florida by 500 votes, then why aren't you also blaming and demanding apologies from
cherokeeprogressive
Feb 2012
#140
Holy shit! Is it REALLY your contention that of the 90,000 Florida votes cast for Nader ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2012
#39
I haven't heard anyone say he had no right to run. I HAVE heard numerous of his defenders deny ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2012
#99
Rehashing what can't be changed: useless. Not making the same mistake again: priceless.
Jim Lane
Mar 2012
#153
And 9/11 might have been prevented, because Gore was in the habit of listening to Richard Clarke,
emulatorloo
Feb 2012
#117
What you said is true, but with the same logic you can also say that if Boosh had not run,
corkhead
Feb 2012
#128
Nader ran a campaign saying Gore = Bush. That was a lie. Nader was respected by a lot of people.
libinnyandia
Feb 2012
#3
When you run as a progressive candidate you have a higher standard than a DUer.
libinnyandia
Feb 2012
#22
So because this is a "two party system" you have the right to tell people who to vote for?
A Simple Game
Feb 2012
#119
When Gore was aggressive, they as an institution said he was ranting, when he found common ground,
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#78
We can blame the corporate media when they're at fault and they were certainly at fault.
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#93
Your slam at Kucinich is 100% wrong. Kucinich did what Nader should've done: run in the PRIMARY.
Jim Lane
Mar 2012
#144
I wouldn't vote for Nader if he were the only candidate for the office. Period.
Skidmore
Feb 2012
#38
Just imagine, if Nader had appeared with Gore on a stage a few days before election day 2000,
Nye Bevan
Feb 2012
#50
That would have put Gore over the top, apparently Nader thought enough of Gore in 2006
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#56
What a beautiful dream. It could have happened that way if Nader had chosen that route.
DevonRex
Feb 2012
#58
Just imagine, if the election had been stolen on Bush's behalf regardless, as had been intended...
JackRiddler
Feb 2012
#72
Yeah, it's time he apologized for the Jeb Bush / Katharine Harris election fraud...
JackRiddler
Feb 2012
#59
Why should he apologize? The GOP bankrolled him in 2004, for fuck's sake.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2012
#120
Your claim is false, no one on this thread, said Nader didn't have a right to run.
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#141
I believe the vast majority of these posters don't hate Nader, they hate what he did.
Uncle Joe
Mar 2012
#161