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In reply to the discussion: U.N. Report: Chemical Weapons Use In Syria Confirmed, Details Point To Assad [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)59. The report
includes a lot of details (trajectories, weapons systems, etc.) that implicate the Assad regime.
UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon is scheduled to address reporters shortly. Here's a summary of where things stand:
Ban said UN investigators had found "overwhelming and indisputable" evidence that the nerve agent sarin was used in the east Ghouta attacks of 21 August. "The facts speak for themselves," Ban said in a statement.
Eighty-five per cent of the blood samples tested positive for sarin, the UN report found, according to Ban. "A majority of the rockets or rocket fragments recovered were found to be carrying sarin."
In its report on the chemical attack, the UN identified the surface-to-surface rockets used, their launching systems and their trajectories. Ban did not mention the Assad regime by name but the findings implicated forces linked to Assad.
The Geneva deal between the US and Russia on dismantling Assad's chemical weapons program provides for "measures under Chapter VII of the UN charter" in the event of noncompliance, according to text of the agreement quoted by Ban. Chapter VII provides for "action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security."
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/16/un-inspectors-submit-syria-chemical-weapons-report-live#block-52373476e4b0a1b6b45de1a1
Ban said UN investigators had found "overwhelming and indisputable" evidence that the nerve agent sarin was used in the east Ghouta attacks of 21 August. "The facts speak for themselves," Ban said in a statement.
Eighty-five per cent of the blood samples tested positive for sarin, the UN report found, according to Ban. "A majority of the rockets or rocket fragments recovered were found to be carrying sarin."
In its report on the chemical attack, the UN identified the surface-to-surface rockets used, their launching systems and their trajectories. Ban did not mention the Assad regime by name but the findings implicated forces linked to Assad.
The Geneva deal between the US and Russia on dismantling Assad's chemical weapons program provides for "measures under Chapter VII of the UN charter" in the event of noncompliance, according to text of the agreement quoted by Ban. Chapter VII provides for "action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security."
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/16/un-inspectors-submit-syria-chemical-weapons-report-live#block-52373476e4b0a1b6b45de1a1
New York, 16 September 2013 - Secretary-General's remarks to the Security Council on the report of the United Nations Missions to Investigate Allegations of the Use of Chemical Weapons on the incident that occurred on 21 August 2013 in the Ghouta area of Damascus
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The United Nations Mission has now confirmed, unequivocally and objectively, that chemical weapons have been used in Syria.
This is a war crime and a grave violation of the 1925 Protocol and other rules of customary international law. I trust all can join me in condemning this despicable crime. The international community has a responsibility to hold the perpetrators accountable and to ensure that chemical weapons never re-emerge as an instrument of warfare.
The accession of Syria to the Chemical Weapons Convention and Syrias belated acknowledgement that it possesses chemical weapons are welcome developments that come with strict obligations.
The Russian Federation and the United States, led by Foreign Minister Lavrov and Secretary of State Kerry, held intensive consultations in Geneva last week, along with their experts. I welcome the understanding they reached regarding the safeguarding and destruction of Syrias chemical weapons stockpiles. I hope the Security Council and the Executive Council of the OPCW can move quickly to consider and implement this plan. I stand ready to support this plan in every way possible, while also fully realizing the complexities of such an undertaking in the midst of a civil war.
The unity of the Security Council will be crucial. Given the gravity of the situation, I urge the Council to consider ways to ensure enforcement of, and compliance with, the plan through a clear resolution. In that regard, I draw your attention to a significant element in the agreement reached in Geneva, and I quote:
"The United States and the Russian Federation concur that this UN Security Council resolution should provide for review on a regular basis the implementation in Syria of the decision of the Executive Council of the OPCW, and in the event of non-compliance, including unauthorized transfer, or any use of chemical weapons by anyone in Syria, the UN Security Council should impose measures under Chapter VII of the UN Charter."
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http://www.un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=7083
<...>
The United Nations Mission has now confirmed, unequivocally and objectively, that chemical weapons have been used in Syria.
This is a war crime and a grave violation of the 1925 Protocol and other rules of customary international law. I trust all can join me in condemning this despicable crime. The international community has a responsibility to hold the perpetrators accountable and to ensure that chemical weapons never re-emerge as an instrument of warfare.
The accession of Syria to the Chemical Weapons Convention and Syrias belated acknowledgement that it possesses chemical weapons are welcome developments that come with strict obligations.
The Russian Federation and the United States, led by Foreign Minister Lavrov and Secretary of State Kerry, held intensive consultations in Geneva last week, along with their experts. I welcome the understanding they reached regarding the safeguarding and destruction of Syrias chemical weapons stockpiles. I hope the Security Council and the Executive Council of the OPCW can move quickly to consider and implement this plan. I stand ready to support this plan in every way possible, while also fully realizing the complexities of such an undertaking in the midst of a civil war.
The unity of the Security Council will be crucial. Given the gravity of the situation, I urge the Council to consider ways to ensure enforcement of, and compliance with, the plan through a clear resolution. In that regard, I draw your attention to a significant element in the agreement reached in Geneva, and I quote:
"The United States and the Russian Federation concur that this UN Security Council resolution should provide for review on a regular basis the implementation in Syria of the decision of the Executive Council of the OPCW, and in the event of non-compliance, including unauthorized transfer, or any use of chemical weapons by anyone in Syria, the UN Security Council should impose measures under Chapter VII of the UN Charter."
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http://www.un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=7083
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U.N. Report: Chemical Weapons Use In Syria Confirmed, Details Point To Assad [View all]
ProSense
Sep 2013
OP
You Will Have A Hard Time, Sir, Finding Any Post By Me Calling For U.S. Bombing Of Syria
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#6
I am having a hard time finding anything in your reply that opposes unilateral war on Syria.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#9
So Any Post That Observes Established Facts Supports Unilateral War, Sir?
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#12
No, it was a question. A question you still have not clearly answered.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#20
I simply asked if, given the UN report, you support unilateral military action against Syria.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#29
Push That Far Enough, Sir, And You Are Just A Figment Of My Imagination....
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#30
Just Because You Do Not Like It, Sir, Does Not Change That It Is an Answer
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#35
So the closest you come to actually opposing unilateralism is this post:
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#43
So when President Obama was proposing unilateral military action against Syria
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#28
No that's fine. I'm glad you are against neocon unilateralism. We all should be.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2013
#39
With a $20 billion+ / year Black Ops budget, I'd be SHOCKED if this were unraveled quickly.
Junkdrawer
Sep 2013
#50
This isn't my first dance. Anyone who thought they KNEW what happened 9/11/2001 on 9/30/2001....
Junkdrawer
Sep 2013
#53
It Is Always The Same Dance, Sir: Same Old Story, Same Old Song And Dance....
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#56
In lieu of photographic evidence, they have an artist's rending of Assad carrying Sarin
rustydog
Sep 2013
#16
What you suggest bolsters the case for strikes. If Assad is no longer in control of
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#26
The point isn't to 'punish' Assad, but to ensure that chemical weapons aren't used by the
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#54
The absolving of Bashir Assad is a disgusting turn in this whole mess....I don't know
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#96
How does this change what should take place next, which was layed out in the OP I posted? n/t
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#61
The US, Russia and international community are working on what will "take place next."
ProSense
Sep 2013
#63
No, culpability was not part of the mandate, remember? What should take place next is just that:
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#66
Pretending what? You have no clue what you're doing here. I have presented to you
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#70
I posted an OP making the process clear, period...you're arguing with yourself.
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#74
I dismissed nothing, you presumed I was dismissing the UN report. The protocol is important
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#80
And the UNSC has not voted on his reponsibility, yet. Let them all do their job, that is the point
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#87
Nice! Now we can justify bombing the shit out of their civilians with conventional weapons
NoOneMan
Sep 2013
#57
Wait for the UN, wait for the UN .... I don't believe the UN. Here comes the bus.
pampango
Sep 2013
#76