General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists [View all]Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)environmentalists and feminists are viewed in a negative light.
Most people feel like environmentalists overall goals of a cleaner environment are noble and just. However, many environmentalists suggest that government has to use a heavy hand to enforce this with more regulations and more taxes. I oppose ideas like a carbon tax for example, because carbon dioxide isn't the only green house gas that humans are putting in the atmosphere that is influencing global climate change. The new IPCC report outlines this explicitly and has a lot of interesting information on this subject. In addition, deforestation/loss of wetlands is a bigger problem with the cause of the change in carbon sequestration. And the lack of vegetation means that a lot of water vapor doesn't have to go the process of transpiration but evaporation. And wetlands are being lost at an outstanding rate, and it is the most important sink that the earth has. The Montreal Protocol was a situation where everyone was on board and the governments of the world acted swiftly because the data was clear and concise. Even with the new IPCC report where there is more proof that anthropogenic global climate change is far more pronounced than we all realized it still isn't as clear as to how?
Before addressing Feminism I have to address the ideas and movements that have sprang up from the other side the coin. The MRA movement is interesting because they argue the pendulum has swung far the other way when it comes to parental custody battles, divorce, alimony,etc from a legal perspective. The misogyny isn't as high in the MRA movement as the MGTOW movement. The MGTOW movement has a lot of anger and misogyny entrenched but they choose not to direct it at anyone rather they vent it out. But unlike MRA's that directly oppose Feminism, MGTOW are saying they refuse to participate in the marriage system all together to avoid lopsided laws they feel are unfavorable to men. They also refuse to have children just because society says so bluntly and basically their goals are not to oppose Feminism but they refuse to participate with the structure set up. That is why they use blue/red pill references and often cite how woman are more often to initiate divorces now in most countries of the world.
Feminism takes a lot of unwarranted flack for a lot of the sentiment the MRA/MGTOW express. The traditional family unit/hypergamy and where alimony comes in to play is where a lot of conservative women support. It was conservative women that struck down the possibility that women would have to register for the draft not Feminists. And yet MRA and MGTOW will blame Feminists because they are openly vocal. While the conservative women of the 70's that opposed women being registered for the draft are not here any more.
In a twist of irony, Feminists, MRA, and MGTOW all oppose the traditional family set up that conservatives support and yet they all can't cooperate with one another. When both sides call it a battle or war no wonder so many ordinary Americans are weary of such terminology. They are beaten down enough as it is.
It is a struggle not a battle or a war because that is what being an activist is about. A struggle to change the hears of minds of the people that support the status quo.