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90. Long Island towns named after Native tribes

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:49 PM

Oct 2013

Oh, this was a discussion DECADES ago. Should the name of the town be changed too? If the town is named after a Native Tribe, and the schools names reflect that, what would do you call the school or their sports teams? The Sachem Fighting Irish?????? The Massapequa Storm Troopers????? I guess even the Shinnecock Golf Course will have to go too?

BTW, years ago the local tribes said they were fine with these town, school, and sports teams names.

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Does the Washington Redskins' name and logo honor Native Americans or not? [View all] CreekDog Oct 2013 OP

Not until they square off against the Pale Faces BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #1

Or the Angry White Farmers. Kaleva Oct 2013 #6

The Fighting Irish are not a pro team jberryhill Oct 2013 #15

Cowboys vs. Redskins anyone? Leopolds Ghost Oct 2013 #7

The name predates the Cowboys' existence by almost 30 years Recursion Oct 2013 #75

I got no problem with the name Leopolds Ghost Oct 2013 #92

The name certainly isn't intended as an insult LittleBlue Oct 2013 #2

so how much money goes to Native Americans from the lucrative logo and name? CreekDog Oct 2013 #4

Probably none. But they are not required to LittleBlue Oct 2013 #12

but then how does it honor Native Americans if it's just to make the team money? CreekDog Oct 2013 #16

I don't think it was chosen to make the team money or honor LittleBlue Oct 2013 #18

just use what's supposed to be their name and likenesses to make money CreekDog Oct 2013 #19

They are just using a name brand they've built over 70+ years LittleBlue Oct 2013 #22

most of that history they wouldn't hire black players --is that the history they should hold onto? CreekDog Oct 2013 #29

I reject the idea that the logo is racist LittleBlue Oct 2013 #37

why am i even arguing with you? CreekDog Oct 2013 #40

Argue with Robert "Two Eagles" Green LittleBlue Oct 2013 #43

so you're saying one guy who likes the names trumps all those who thinks it's offensive? CreekDog Oct 2013 #45

He said the majority of this tribe don't find it offensive LittleBlue Oct 2013 #53

it's still just one guy CreekDog Oct 2013 #57

Polls please LittleBlue Oct 2013 #61

so you tell me that one guy's opinion is enough for you CreekDog Oct 2013 #63

I just gave you a poll of Native Americans LittleBlue Oct 2013 #71

degenerate is not the same thing as denigrate hfojvt Oct 2013 #69

Most Native Americans seem to be fine with the name at least according to polling. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #60

The National Congress of American Indians JonLP24 Oct 2013 #66

Absolutely, there are Native American groups advocating a name change. PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #72

The name is arguably racist but i fail to see how the logo is MadBadger Oct 2013 #68

So all it takes is some money and you're not insulted? krawhitham Oct 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Oct 2013 #20

No, but I think that the lack of money makes it obvious any "honor" intended is hollow CreekDog Oct 2013 #32

Maybe when the team name was created in 1933 as the Boston Redskins, the term was not seen as Fla Dem Oct 2013 #26

I'm curious if instead of the 49'ers.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #27

No, "redskins" is a derogatory term based off Native American skin tone Scootaloo Oct 2013 #86

If Native Americans say it doesn't, then it doesn't. randome Oct 2013 #3

How many Amerindians does it require to validate or invalidate something as an insult? LanternWaste Oct 2013 #21

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? randome Oct 2013 #30

No, it's a racial term that should be done away with. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #5

Must we say goodbye to the Fightin' Irish, too? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #9

Yes, we should. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #10

NCAA actually considered it JonLP24 Oct 2013 #35

Yes they should do away with the "Fighting Irish" coldmountain Oct 2013 #91

I think it's that whole fighting spirit thing. Indians had a rep as scary fighters. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #8

"Packers" is region related? n/t A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #31

Yes. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #34

So there are no meat packing houses outside the region of Green Bay? n/t A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #36

Why would this be relevant? Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #39

The poster I responded to said.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #50

They had packing houses there. That's all I meant. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #81

so there are soldiers that weren't scary? CreekDog Oct 2013 #38

I've never seen a sports team called The Fightin' Conscientious Objectors Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #42

The Fighting Papal Guard LittleBlue Oct 2013 #47

so only Native American fighters were brave and scary? CreekDog Oct 2013 #49

You ought to learn logic. That does not follow from my post. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #78

There are examples where it's debatable but the Redskins and the Cleveland Indians? el_bryanto Oct 2013 #11

Chief Wahoo must go KamaAina Oct 2013 #14

yeah, that's an absurd design n/t Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #25

I don't know. HappyMe Oct 2013 #13

/\/\/\/\ yes/\/\/\/\ dembotoz Oct 2013 #23

The correct answer IMHO-if Native Americans are insulted (and I would be)-then change it. Boomerproud Oct 2013 #51

So, my answer was 'incorrect'? HappyMe Oct 2013 #56

great-grandmother was Cherokee, she was fierce I'm told Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #24

"Braves" and names after specific tribes (i.e. "Seminoles") are one thing. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #28

This controversy has been around for a long time arikara Oct 2013 #33

Nine of you think the name "Redskins" honors Native Americans? Iggo Oct 2013 #41

Do you think they chose the name to dishonor them? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #44

because they were so honorable that they were banning blacks from their team at the same time? CreekDog Oct 2013 #46

The person who came up with the name JonLP24 Oct 2013 #48

"Fight For Old DIXIE" was the original lyric. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #83

Yes. I think that. Iggo Oct 2013 #55

2 of the names don't surprise me JonLP24 Oct 2013 #54

I do not think the logo is disrespectful, Jenoch Oct 2013 #52

and what were the other ways that the University of North Dakota honored the Sioux? CreekDog Oct 2013 #58

You obviouosly no little about UND. Jenoch Oct 2013 #65

:/ Go Vols Oct 2013 #64

As a Minnesotan, Jenoch Oct 2013 #67

Its an excerpt from Go Vols Oct 2013 #76

I should have know from your username. Jenoch Oct 2013 #77

If they gained support from local Dakota tribes JonLP24 Oct 2013 #70

There are two tribes in North Dakota, Jenoch Oct 2013 #74

I saw that after my post JonLP24 Oct 2013 #80

Change it to the Washington Wienies and let Oscar Mayer sue them. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #59

Context is all. Orsino Oct 2013 #62

We know why it was chosen: when they moved to Fenway they wanted to tie in with the Red Sox Recursion Oct 2013 #73

I don't follow basketball, so I didn't vote. MineralMan Oct 2013 #79

Heh. Smart move. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #82

I'm always interested in who declines to participate Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #84

Most DUers decline to participate. pintobean Oct 2013 #87

I think these 'internet polls' are bullshit, that's why I stopped Jenoch Oct 2013 #88

Believe it or not, the Washington Redskins have decided to change their offensive team name. Jenoch Oct 2013 #85

Hell no. Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #89

Long Island towns named after Native tribes HockeyMom Oct 2013 #90