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FarPoint

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Sun Oct 13, 2013, 10:37 AM Oct 2013

My Teabagger friend gave this response to the late night GOP House Rule change... [View all]

Now this friend has been a friend since childhood, since we were 2 years old...he is retired Air Force now....( I felt the need to explain this aspect). We will call him Jack.

At first he told me to read the Constitution...

Jack: "Please read Article I, Section 5 (2nd paragraph) of the Constitution"

Me: I responded in kind....."Sure they can do it....but what they are doing is not a representation of the people. Shuts out, locks out a balance of debate for "We The People"......

Me: The President is does not legislate. Boehner and the GOP only presented bills that were knowingly utterly ridiculous...example...refunding ACA/Obamacare which is now law of the land. Not sending a clean CR is also ridiculous and harmful to ALL...including you and the Tea Party. The GOP for some suicidal reason want a shut down.Democracy has been suspended in the House of Representatives. Trying not to be insulting and carry on a reasonable debate.....

but then....He went off the cliff.....

[/b]Jack: "When it comes to being ethical or not ethical what does the president not being legislature have to do with anything? And since you realize he is not part of the legislature, where you when he was unilaterally and unconstitutionally changing law with his exemptions to Obamacare. When he changes the law, is it the same law of the land that the SC ruled on? Two, so if it is the law of the land, so what, there is nothing that says it cannot be changed or repealed and that goes for Supreme Court decisions also. The Supreme Court once ruled slavery Constitutional. It is not law anymore. While the GOP may be committing suicide, at least they are standing on principle and doing what they believe is best for the country. I am for that. Obamacare is hurting a lot of people and as long as it stands it will hurt a lot more. Suicide for the better of the country; sounds honorable to me. Obamacare has to go, sooner or later."

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These people just can't connect the dots.....I've tried to guide them within reasonable debate but they are so far off the mark of actually understanding the Constitution yet throw it in our faces with every breathe.

So...how do I respond to this?

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You don't. Walk away. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #1
I agree. brer cat Oct 2013 #3
Ask him his opinion on Thermohaline Circulation... Bigmack Oct 2013 #2
Hey! I like that! truebluegreen Oct 2013 #5
Yeap.... FarPoint Oct 2013 #6
Arguing with these people is a waste of time CanonRay Oct 2013 #4
There's an old saying: You cannot reason someone... Frank Cannon Oct 2013 #12
I like that, never heard it before. CanonRay Oct 2013 #15
Agreed...he needs to feel the pain of the hand that FarPoint Oct 2013 #16
"Have a nice life, Pal." Iggo Oct 2013 #7
I understand.... FarPoint Oct 2013 #13
I had friends like that, and I cut them loose. Iggo Oct 2013 #17
Tell your friend Jack, Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #8
When you see crazy coming down the street BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #9
It won't matter how you respond to this. His mind is made up and all the facts you can Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #10
he missed all the civics classes huh? irisblue Oct 2013 #11
Yea...he was the jock.... FarPoint Oct 2013 #14
There's a consitutional process for what he wants... JHB Oct 2013 #18
Damn straight skippy! FarPoint Oct 2013 #19
Oh for Chrissake,,, FarPoint Oct 2013 #20
Ok, technically they have the right to do it. By that standard... JHB Oct 2013 #22
tell him to read Article 1 Section 8 paragraph 1 NMDemDist2 Oct 2013 #21
It's all how one intruptes the laws, rules of the Constitution. FarPoint Oct 2013 #23
how else can you interpret 'pay the debts' ???? NMDemDist2 Oct 2013 #24
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