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MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I'd like to know if he visited the Russian consulate the
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:47 PM
Oct 2013

first time he visited Hong Kong as well.

He vacationed in HK before he ran there.

Or if he visited a Russian consulate in India. Or Thailand. Or Japan.

Or even Switzerland.

I think it's entirely possible that he was a Russian agent, turned years ago, and the only reason he ran--in a hurry--is because his security clearance was challenged (and that happens when one lies about one's education and other qualifications--those kinds of things are often re-checked at the ten year mark). He knew the game was over.

See these articles:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10374032/CIA-suspicious-of-Edward-Snowden-years-ago.html

Would have been nice if the CIA had said something, I suppose...?

The CIA reportedly grew suspicious of Edward Snowden while he was working for the spy agency but failed to pass on a warning to the rest of the American government.
The New York Times reported that authorities grew concerned that Mr Snowden was trying to gain unauthorised access to classified intelligence while working undercover for the CIA in Switzerland in 2009.
His superiors reportedly noted their concerns in a report, saying that the 26-year-old's attitude and work habits had changed since he began his deployment.
But the CIA's red flags were reportedly not passed on and Mr Snowden was able to retain his security clearance and get a job as a contractor at the National Security Agency (NSA), where he went on to leak highly-classified US and British intelligence....One of Mr Snowden's superiors reportedly wrote down concerns in an internal derogatory report – known as "a derog" – but it did not meet the threshold for sharing with the rest of the intelligence community.



http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324906304579039381125706104

WASHINGTON—The most recent background check of former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden was so inadequate that too few people were interviewed and potential concerns weren't pursued, according to a federal review following his leak of some of the nation's most closely guarded secrets.

The background checkers failed to verify Mr. Snowden's account of a past security violation and his work for the Central Intelligence Agency, they didn't thoroughly probe an apparent trip to India that he had failed to report, and they didn't get significant information from anyone who knew him beyond his mother and girlfriend, according to the review.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/cia-warning-on-snowden-in-09-said-to-slip-through-the-cracks.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Just as Edward J. Snowden was preparing to leave Geneva and a job as a C.I.A. technician in 2009, his supervisor wrote a derogatory report in his personnel file, noting a distinct change in the young man’s behavior and work habits, as well as a troubling suspicion.

The C.I.A. suspected that Mr. Snowden was trying to break into classified computer files to which he was not authorized to have access, and decided to send him home,
according to two senior American officials.


I think his "Information Wants To Be Free" persona was a cover--a handy one, too, even though it butted up against his "leakers should be shot" attitude he professed when he was working in Switzerland.

I'd love to know what really motivated him. Money? Blackmail? Threats? I just don't think it's what he claims.

No "paid double-agent" option? nt MADem Oct 2013 #1
Closer to being a patsy. Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #2
Maybe--I just think it's odd that he ran in such a hurry when MADem Oct 2013 #5
I think he ran to the two places this country wouldn't be able to extradite, Warpy Oct 2013 #8
I doubt he will EVER "head to South America." MADem Oct 2013 #11
I've always said "useful idiot" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #16
I'd like to know if he visited the Russian consulate the MADem Oct 2013 #27
I don't know...If Snowden was owned by the Russians Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #29
Maybe not. MADem Oct 2013 #33
Confused loner. randome Oct 2013 #3
He's got a lot of good friends for a loner. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #20
Seriously? He couldn't have been bothered to put on a tie? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #30
That's not even his suit, I don't think. MADem Oct 2013 #34
Thank you for... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #37
Civil disobedience and conscientious objection are one thing Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #40
I'm waiting for his report on the Greenpeace activists arrested by Russia before voting. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #4
Classic "commie go back to Russia" response. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #9
Dude...how can he go back to Russia??? He's there already. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #14
Who says stupid sayings make sense? JackRiddler Oct 2013 #17
Good Simple Poll On the Road Oct 2013 #6
Not even remotely close to hero. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #7
It is dependent upon one's perspective RobertEarl Oct 2013 #10
There are far more perspectives than that. Such as: confused loner. randome Oct 2013 #12
You are projecting. eom RobertEarl Oct 2013 #15
Pretty much... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #18
Sorry, I thought you were asking for opinions. My mistake! randome Oct 2013 #32
there's something to that Supersedeas Oct 2013 #31
Hero. I hope hundreds more like him do the same in the future LittleBlue Oct 2013 #13
Twerp gulliver Oct 2013 #19
He sacrificed for your rights too. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #21
I didn't vote in the Poll...but.. KoKo Oct 2013 #22
Ban NSA domestic spying... Richard Bittner Oct 2013 #23
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #24
It used to be banned. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #28
Like your sig line... JackRiddler Oct 2013 #45
As of 10/15, it's 34-21 along the hero/bad actor split JackRiddler Oct 2013 #25
I have yet to know a RW Libertarian that I'd consider anywhere near a "hero". tridim Oct 2013 #26
Just label away, maybe you can make it disappear. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #36
I don't support a total surveillance state. tridim Oct 2013 #39
No, you probably don't support the total surveillance state. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #43
Pass. That is over, frankly. MineralMan Oct 2013 #35
Definitely a bad actor, no question about it. And one that almost certainly had malicious intent.... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #38
The disposition of his legacy is still a work in progress. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #41
I don't think it's about legacy. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #44
The Kerry goes to Paris kick. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #46
This could use more votes. JackRiddler Dec 2013 #47
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