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57. Great post, well said!

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Why We Did Not Win and the Dangers of Saying We Did [View all] cui bono Oct 2013 OP

We did not win because the enemy has survived and WILL fight again. calimary Oct 2013 #1

They will definitely want to fight again, but with the mentality prevalent right now cui bono Oct 2013 #7

+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #68

And the Sequester still stands n2doc Oct 2013 #2

Yes, exactly. Great point. cui bono Oct 2013 #15

This graphic is a useful tool against those who claim we got "Complete Victory" n2doc Oct 2013 #22

Love that graphic. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #30

This should be posted in it's own post after today's breaking news. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #60

it's an old graphic hfojvt Oct 2013 #88

The numbers are accurate , but if the numbers were allocated according to the Ryan budget Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #64

As long as you have a GOP majority in the house Iliyah Oct 2013 #94

Precisely. jsr Oct 2013 #26

**Because the Repubs are already screaming about "entitlement reform" and Debt reduction** Martin Eden Oct 2013 #128

So you think that sharp_stick Oct 2013 #3

We DID win rock Oct 2013 #4

It was a victory for rule of law, certainly, and the legislative process. nt MADem Oct 2013 #6

+1 Agree. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #78

But that should be business as usual. cui bono Oct 2013 #25

Well to be a little more precise rock Oct 2013 #79

Politics is most definitely a team sport. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #5

Not really dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #84

There is a crazy fringe group that shut down the government Southside Oct 2013 #8

Ain't gonna happen. Tea Party will have less influence after this fiasco Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #10

They can't shut us down, but they can take out RHINOs Southside Oct 2013 #17

Shove their neo-GOP-of-Lincoln's flag in their 'moderate' faces: Amonester Oct 2013 #125

Ok. If you say so. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #9

+ 1 ... for having "a sad" JoePhilly Oct 2013 #14

"Your concern is duly noted." cui bono Oct 2013 #16

I'm not. You are concerned we are overly celebratory Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #31

You know as well as I do what that phrase means. cui bono Oct 2013 #81

You're right. That 'noted concern' is such passive agressive bullshit. Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #91

See ... THIS is why we can't have nice things!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #11

What nice things do we have from this? cui bono Oct 2013 #21

We also saw lakercub Oct 2013 #61

I laugh at posts like this one leftynyc Oct 2013 #23

Don't forget the Virginia governorship. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #53

I'll worry about Terry tomorrow leftynyc Oct 2013 #112

+1 treestar Oct 2013 #66

Hear, hear, leftynyc! flpoljunkie Oct 2013 #90

Nope … 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #110

I gave up the looking for perfection leftynyc Oct 2013 #113

I guess ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #114

When one wants a meal - PETRUS Oct 2013 #116

I guess I shouldn't have suggested everyone read Nietzsche during the shut down. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #27

How predictable .... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #12

Have you got anything to actually add to the discussion? cui bono Oct 2013 #19

because a serious man is in the White House... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #32

Let me rephrase that. Do you have anything substantial to say to add to the discussion? cui bono Oct 2013 #46

and your "little quip" means exactly what? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #55

So you don't want to have a discussion. That's what I thought. cui bono Oct 2013 #82

and you did? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #98

Ah... so you didn't read the OP. cui bono Oct 2013 #136

Yeah way to have such high expectations....you totally miss the milestones. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #137

You really don't get "discussion" do you? cui bono Oct 2013 #138

Okay...you don't get it...don't do subtle comedy do you? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #139

Yeah, that's the ticket. Pure comedy gold. cui bono Oct 2013 #140

did you just say that Obama not getting impeached is a win???? Doctor_J Oct 2013 #121

OP needs this picture ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #20

Yes, that would have helped explain it to you. cui bono Oct 2013 #33

I remember when the DOW was at 7500 and THAT was going to be what JoePhilly Oct 2013 #45

Calling this a win moves the goalposts further to the right. cui bono Oct 2013 #47

Sure it does. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #51

You don't believe that? cui bono Oct 2013 #83

Exactly! munster69 Oct 2013 #72

The very point of all this is to accept the right wing result as normal. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #13

Maybe the economy will pick up Southside Oct 2013 #28

It will certainly pick up now that we are not going to become deadbeat and aren't forced to pay for VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #34

Impeachment is coming, they hate Obama. Southside Oct 2013 #50

they can try...but it wont work. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #54

Nope, will never work Southside Oct 2013 #58

Yes to all you said. Especially the politics as team sport thing. Demit Oct 2013 #18

Entitlement reforms means different things to different people, taking the cap off earnings Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #37

omg, what Democrat in Congress can you point me to who is pushing for raising the SS cap? Demit Oct 2013 #59

Here's one and if I kept searching I'm sure there are others that would support it, particulary now. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #69

Thanks Demit Oct 2013 #96

Here’s another Democrat … 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #111

Then why am I so happy? warrprayer Oct 2013 #24

Because ignorance is bliss? cui bono Oct 2013 #42

as one who was/is active warrprayer Oct 2013 #63

We've been scammed. Again. Let's repeat this part, woo me with science Oct 2013 #29

. ProSense Oct 2013 #36

Exactly. It's sad that so many on here are simply playing the game cui bono Oct 2013 #38

There certainly is a discussion to be had over exactly WHAT will be the fallout Maedhros Oct 2013 #74

So we get super duper austerity instead of super duper pooper austerity. Wow, what a win. JEB Oct 2013 #65

Indeed. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #71

I agree with you woo! blue14u Oct 2013 #101

Somebody won: ProSense Oct 2013 #35

I believe the political dynamic is in favor of this occurring more often thanks to the Republican Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #43

LOL! This whole thing was a political win for us. All we had to do was watch DevonRex Oct 2013 #39

You are living in a bubble. cui bono Oct 2013 #40

You know what has been missing since ProSense Oct 2013 #44

^^^This^^^ Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #104

I live in this dimension. I can enjoy a moment DevonRex Oct 2013 #102

Well I posted more than a cartoon clip. I'm looking at the big picture. cui bono Oct 2013 #123

We aren't allowed to win. Democrats never win. Only Republicans can win ProSense Oct 2013 #41

+1 JoePhilly Oct 2013 #49

We win about as much as we can until we put Nancy Pelosi back in the speaker chair. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #48

We **WIN** because they got nothing they wanted. Lex Oct 2013 #52

Not completely true munster69 Oct 2013 #73

It was a display of Politics as Usual. Not even very entertaining. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #56

Great post, well said! DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #57

I concur. But here's the problem with your analysis: BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #62

+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #76

Democrats need to stop being on the defensive. Maedhros Oct 2013 #89

Senator Bernie Sanders just said it was a terrible deal munster69 Oct 2013 #67

We won in the sense the RW extortionist tactics failed. DCBob Oct 2013 #70

How do we vote out the tea-baggers in the House? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #75

K&R for the reality check we all need. zeemike Oct 2013 #77

paul ryan's budget noiretextatique Oct 2013 #80

I'm glad that you posted this Orrex Oct 2013 #85

You are one my favorite posters, ever. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #107

. Orrex Oct 2013 #117

Heh. I like your sarcasm. :) cui bono Oct 2013 #109

I understand your' logic here, cui, but I respectfully disagree... BornLooser Oct 2013 #86

Excellent point mkell33 Oct 2013 #87

K&R Oilwellian Oct 2013 #92

That will be when denial will set in. cui bono Oct 2013 #108

The only real victory is that public opinion of the GOP is in the sewer andym Oct 2013 #93

We simply postponed the bloodshed...... lastlib Oct 2013 #95

We won a battle on an important principle. Orsino Oct 2013 #97

I do see where you come from DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #99

Well I dont call this a victory. I call it a wake up call. PFunk Oct 2013 #100

I completely agree stupidicus Oct 2013 #103

Kick Cal Carpenter Oct 2013 #105

Aw come on man, not even just ONE win? A little victory? Rex Oct 2013 #106

When a big win is just not defaulting, then we are in a bad spot. We got a stop on D TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #118

+10000000 Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #119

I don't get it, it is like what happens in reality doesn't even matter. Just what the score TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #127

It is irresponsible to say we didn't win. joshcryer Oct 2013 #115

HEAD'S UP!! Obligatory Democratic Breast Beating Alert!! renie408 Oct 2013 #120

just like the Bush tax cut extension was a win Doctor_J Oct 2013 #122

I am SO past the team win mentality! n/t slipslidingaway Oct 2013 #124

So fucking sick and tired of Democrats and our fucking inferiority complex!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #126

I think "sick of the left's inferiority complex" would be more accurate LS71. great white snark Oct 2013 #129

There you go! Thanks! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #135

Thank you, cui bono. Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #130

We Won!!!!! Progressive dog Oct 2013 #131

Yup. progressoid Oct 2013 #132

K&R n/t lupinella Oct 2013 #133

DURec. bvar22 Oct 2013 #134