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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:02 AM Oct 2013

There are essentially 2 kinds of debt [View all]

(or maybe more accurately, 2 poles on the debt spectrum).

One kind of debt occurs when you borrow a lot of money to take all your rowdy friends on a year-long binge and casino tour.

On a national level, this equates to going into the hole while building a military you don't need, fighting stupid wars, pouring Treasury money into bonuses for the bankers who already pocketed billions while gambling away your inheritance, etc.

The other kind of debt is where you borrow money to improve your house, get an education, and fix your car so you can get to work.

On a national level, this would equate to borrowing in order to put people to work building high-speed transcontinental rail, providing the whole country with broadband access, building a green energy network, setting up a true national health system, and similar things that will result in improving people's lives and healing the planet.

Conservatives always favor the former kind of debt, and progressives, the latter kind. Conservatives have this game of indulging in spending binges when in power, and then using the debt they run up as an excuse to prevent the progressives from creating the second kind of debt.

And I'm getting really fed up with this stupid game.

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There are essentially 2 kinds of debt [View all] Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 OP
I would say two kinds of debts - yours and mine. hollysmom Oct 2013 #1
Very good point. merrily Oct 2013 #41
That would make an excellent letter to the editor... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #2
Thanks for the idea. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #5
except, once again, I would say it buys in to Republican Spin hfojvt Oct 2013 #44
Your points are obviously valid. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #48
Here is the revised version of this little essay that I submitted as an LTTE. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #49
Dayum, Jackpine Radical! That's a very fine post you've created there! Th1onein Oct 2013 #3
exactly gopiscrap Oct 2013 #4
Kick.... daleanime Oct 2013 #6
K/R. One is investment and elevates all of us, the other is hookers and blow and is wasteful, sad. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #7
7th Generation thinking, I like it! Dragonfli Oct 2013 #8
I love that, hadn't heard of it before now, thank you! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #9
I live in WNY where the Iroquois and some of their thought is known better than in many other areas Dragonfli Oct 2013 #10
It should be incorporated into the oath taken by members of congress and other electeds. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #13
Thanks for that reference BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #17
Well that has brought a tear to my eye...though Sioux, not Iroquois, my grandfather.. Tikki Oct 2013 #24
I love this!! Thanks for posting this!! hue Oct 2013 #32
K&R docgee Oct 2013 #11
Don't worry. We're going to get at least 2 years without them, come the mid-terms. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #12
Nice post. And look what a fine job we've done in encouraging debt for eduction. jtuck004 Oct 2013 #14
I think all education ought to be free, including graduate school, Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #18
Yep. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2013 #19
Perhaps if the money was used to create good paying jobs instead of bombs, the graduates A Simple Game Oct 2013 #21
Very succinct. DeSwiss Oct 2013 #15
Great Job with this tnlurker Oct 2013 #16
PRECISELY Mira Oct 2013 #20
The internet was a debt-funded govt. project Yavin4 Oct 2013 #22
That should be a phrase on a photo. Good one. eom Blanks Oct 2013 #27
I believe it was an excellent investment from both an economic and democratic point of view. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #39
k&r and so true. uppityperson Oct 2013 #23
Well stated. Myrina Oct 2013 #25
du rec. xchrom Oct 2013 #26
There are two kinds of conservative debt: Turbineguy Oct 2013 #28
Nice. (nt) Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #29
Perfectly clear! Now, get past all the Tokyo Rose's. The Wielding Truth Oct 2013 #30
I'm so with You on this!! K&R! hue Oct 2013 #31
Actually, a LOT of the debt is due to tax cuts for the rich.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #33
Kicked and recommended. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #34
Insightful, accurate, and concise. Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #35
K&R ReRe Oct 2013 #36
This thread just rocks the house; thanks! ms liberty Oct 2013 #37
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #38
Exactly! !! snowdancer76 Oct 2013 #40
Good post. Another thing about borrowing, when you get into sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #42
Oooooh la la! Need this repeated at the State of the Nation. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #43
You forgot the 3rd kind of debt where you borrow to pay back your earlier debt. dkf Oct 2013 #45
GOP "game of indulging in spending binges when in power, 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #46
K&R It is treated like a game by multinational corporations. raouldukelives Oct 2013 #47
I agree entirely. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #53
Don't forget that W's War Debt didn't even go on the books as debt til his ass was gone MadLinguist Oct 2013 #50
I know I will get flamed, but that's not supported by facts. JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #51
Don't confuse "Democrats" with "Progressives." Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #52
Well, okay then JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #54
You didn't hear that here. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #55
Slight change of subject JayhawkSD Oct 2013 #56
I lived a couple of years in Milwaukee, then in Superior. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #57
K & R; What he said. n/t TheJames Oct 2013 #58
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