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In reply to the discussion: Faith under fire: Student told to remove rosary [View all]Miranda4peace
(225 posts)173. It does?
As far as I can tell it just establishes the right of people to believe as they wish, go to religious institutions they wish, and prohibits the government from establishing a state religion.
Precedent shows that Safety, which seems to be at the heart of this specific debate, can trump the right to wear certain things. Dress codes have been upheld various times in court. I really see nothing different about this case.
For instance you have no right to walk into a public museum dressed as the supposed Christ when he died on the cross. If you tried to walk into a government building half naked, dragging a cross, wearing a crown of thorns, you would be cast out or removed by police.
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"So they are letting gangs decide what kids can and can't wear" - yes, if the school has a dress
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2013
#1
Absolutely disagree. He is allowed to wear the rosary. That is the point being glossed over. He is
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#35
In this case he wasn't asked to remove it until he failed repeatedly to put it under his shirt. Also
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#42
The individual school has created a policy in addition to district policy period. If the district
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#50
Exactly, but when the rosary being worn as a necklace became a gang symbol, the individual school
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#60
While I appreciate his sentiment, a Principal should not be forced to make a case that one individua
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#77
The Catholic Code of Canon Law might think rosaries used as gang signs are not allowed
Generic Other
Oct 2013
#138
You're right of course. My bad; I forgot to pay my Dumb Bill this month! (nt)
Posteritatis
Oct 2013
#75
If you think you can tell a Muslim not to wear her headdress then put your fucking rosary away
TeamPooka
Oct 2013
#2
I'm sure you'll point out where the kid's advocating for that any day now. (nt)
Posteritatis
Oct 2013
#70
Yet still pretty tame stuff compared to western contemporary fashion standards...
LanternWaste
Oct 2013
#81
I've yet to come across something worse, although I'm sure you're right and there is much worse.
Miranda4peace
Oct 2013
#84
It's a sign of A faith that he happened to be indocrinated into as a child.
Miranda4peace
Oct 2013
#167
My Persian/Irish children are diverse, and I'm quite proud of our heritage.
Miranda4peace
Oct 2013
#192
Why not? Religion is a personal thing that should remain private and out of the public sphere.
Miranda4peace
Oct 2013
#168
Not confused, tired and waiting to send my son off to his father before I can sleep.
Miranda4peace
Oct 2013
#205
And now they have dog tags with religion stamped on them for appropriate death services. nt
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#39
Ah didn't know that. I know the chaplains are often "cross-trained" if you will to provide services
okaawhatever
Oct 2013
#44
Would you still be OK with it if the kid was killed by gang members because of it?
xfundy
Oct 2013
#91
I would say it is up to that boy's parents to decide, and they're not concerned.
pnwmom
Oct 2013
#92
I meant to say around the neck. BTW we Anglicans/Episcopalians have a rosary as well.
hrmjustin
Oct 2013
#120
Religious freedom is allowed in our nation and we also have First Amendment rights of ...
spin
Oct 2013
#61
In recent years testing has become important to establish benchmarks to compare ...
spin
Oct 2013
#208
Hey now, keep your logic and sanity away from this nice frothing moral panic! (nt)
Posteritatis
Oct 2013
#68
I'm comparing one faith's religious symbol to another faiths religious symbol.
NutmegYankee
Oct 2013
#113
Oh boy, another "the First Amendment doesn't apply to things we don't like" thread. (nt)
Posteritatis
Oct 2013
#72
When I was RC in my youth I remember kids in my class waring them and I asked why and they
hrmjustin
Oct 2013
#112
Yeah! Especially when they're guilty of anti-government political speech!
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2013
#157
If he is allowed to otherwise express his faith openly at school, but simply asked to keep
JDPriestly
Oct 2013
#153
"In some Catholic ethnic groups this is more frowned upon than in others"
NutmegYankee
Oct 2013
#187
Even at Catholic school. he might be asked to take it off.. A rosary is NOT jewelry
SoCalDem
Oct 2013
#203