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burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
65. Many of the comments at Slate
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 10:09 AM
Nov 2013

are quite ugly.
Clearly, there is the perception in this country that a person on public assistance of any kind is living in luxury.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
We've often heard "those who will not work shall not eat."
The problem with this piece of "wisdom" is that Americans confound work with employment. There are many people who are not employed who often work quite hard. Should they be malnourished? Should they starve?
Why does American society define work so inaccurately?
Then there has been no mention, in the article or in the comments I've seen, of the economic impact of public assistance, how it puts money into an economy otherwise overproducing and starved for spending.
If food is not bought, it will rot. Enable people to buy it and the economy functions. Refuse to do so and look stagnation in the face.
I'd sooner have some dynamic going than none.
There is also the perception that the more money a person makes, the more he or she is contributing to the society as a whole.
I don't agree.
I think the janitor that cleans a building on Wall Street is doing much more to serve the society as a whole than all the investors who work there.
In fact, the person who sweeps Wall Street is serving society far more than most of those walking on Wall Street.
I believe that the food server, teacher and the janitor all serve society more than the district manager of the fast food restaurant.
The church sexton serves society more than the lawyer.
The bailiff and clerk both, in fact, serve the society more than the judge and lawyer combined.
The majority of people in this country do not have college degrees, and yet they have the least power and the least money.
The impact a person has on society should not be determined by his wealth. It should be determined by exactly what he does or does not do.
Even the SNAP recipient is serving the society in the use of his/her benefits.
The person on public assistance serves society in the use of every benefit he/she receives.
I'm sick of the self-deceptions of the most self-deceived society in the world.

Sounds like my early childhood. Poverty is soul-crushing. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #1
I hear you. That trauma never leaves you. I am old and things are easier but it was roguevalley Nov 2013 #32
Completely agree. Diego_Native 2012 Nov 2013 #81
When I was young, my Mother would tell me stories. hollysmom Nov 2013 #2
Do you have a local church pantry? HockeyMom Nov 2013 #3
From Debra: kpete Nov 2013 #5
It's my experience that many/most of the church-related kitchens and food banks do not proselytize. No Vested Interest Nov 2013 #7
Sadly... ReRe Nov 2013 #10
I would bear faux news for a bag Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #53
I'd even say "God bless you" even though I'm not religious. AAO Nov 2013 #63
I am forced to attend food pantries in the south central wisconsin area Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #14
I volunteer at a food bank in St Johns county Fl. It is run by several different churches. Fla Dem Nov 2013 #21
Fla Dem, It sounds as though the food bank where you volunteer No Vested Interest Nov 2013 #52
You're in a good church... ReRe Nov 2013 #88
Most mainstream churches (Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, etc.) do not proselytize. Beacool Nov 2013 #37
A couple of our local churches serve free dinners every week. PADemD Nov 2013 #4
My experience was at Thanksgiving HockeyMom Nov 2013 #6
sad Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #8
We need another "War on Poverty," another Dr. King or LBJ or RFK to mobilze people mountain grammy Nov 2013 #9
There IS a war on poverty LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #13
In 1964, LBJ declared war on the persistent poverty in America mountain grammy Nov 2013 #26
Thank you. LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #28
I figured as much, just my chance to spout off. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #30
This is close to my life Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #11
I too am forced by circumstance to attend food pantries. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #16
Hugs to you Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #19
Curious...if you don't mind answering my questions wercal Nov 2013 #27
It's been a long time, but... Daemonaquila Nov 2013 #34
Thanks for the reply wercal Nov 2013 #35
I'm sure some definitely goes bad Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #42
If it wasn't for the garden my mom always grew, I don't think we'd have made it. Rozlee Nov 2013 #12
Same situation here NickB79 Nov 2013 #24
Yeah, I can never understand how rich Republicans like Boehner who went through such Rozlee Nov 2013 #36
I can't understand that either.... AnneD Nov 2013 #64
perhaps that is why Boehner drinks so much. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #72
Boehner's family owned a bar. Being in a German part of the locale, No Vested Interest Nov 2013 #78
He always cries about the silliest things. Rozlee Nov 2013 #80
You've got that right! nt No Vested Interest Nov 2013 #82
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2013 #15
This hits close to home I remember my parents going hungry so my sister and I can eat Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #17
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #18
K & R. dchill Nov 2013 #20
My husband lost his job just before our daughter was born. stage left Nov 2013 #22
KnRnThanks Hekate Nov 2013 #23
Really unfortunate ad placement CFLDem Nov 2013 #25
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #29
This has to stop! Bearing the pain of other BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #31
The answer is good jobs! Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #44
I agree. We need GOOD jobs BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #70
It is a mistake to give the President a pass here Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #75
Obviously, you are either young BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #76
I'm old enough to remember Harold Washington Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #77
You sound like your mind is made up BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #83
St Vincent de Paul (SVDP) in Baltimore will surely help you or anyone in need -- and no demosincebirth Nov 2013 #33
YES! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #45
I think I have become a food hoarder of sorts... FirstLight Nov 2013 #38
Let me give you a hug DocMac Nov 2013 #58
The Real Tragedy allinthegame Nov 2013 #39
Yep. Daughter is an adult. But neither of them has a job. LisaL Nov 2013 #40
This just infuriates me... CoffeeCat Nov 2013 #54
I hear ya! FirstLight Nov 2013 #87
Obama has played us all for fools. Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #41
I believe it was Congress that let it be cut, not Obama himself. sakabatou Nov 2013 #43
I don't blame Obama for all of this, but... Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #47
Why don't you mention the Republican House? nt DocMac Nov 2013 #59
I did in my post #48 Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #68
So.... Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #46
Right you are. Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #48
Obama isn't Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #49
Congress didnt force him to support the Patriot Act or domestic spying. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #50
I don't claim he is perfect Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #51
He can make a case to the American people. grasswire Nov 2013 #56
Is there a link to that quote? Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #57
Until we see results that's just rhetoric. He is working hard on something that rhett o rick Nov 2013 #67
"include the working man/woman" It should be all about us ...not the 1%. L0oniX Nov 2013 #74
Totally agree Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #89
Obama was blunt last week. grasswire Nov 2013 #55
got a link? Blue_Roses Nov 2013 #60
Carefull buddy ...I know what yer saying is true but truth will not keep you from getting pizza. L0oniX Nov 2013 #73
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Nov 2013 #62
Many of the comments at Slate burnsei sensei Nov 2013 #65
Moving money around is not an empty art form. toby jo Nov 2013 #69
Greatest country in the world Rex Nov 2013 #66
The land of milk and honey ...g0d bless ameddicca. L0oniX Nov 2013 #71
I remember VA_Jill Nov 2013 #79
Darker days are coming. bvar22 Nov 2013 #84
Minimum wage increases ease the pain only a bit, and only for a while. merrily Nov 2013 #85
I would like to do something like this, start a food pantry adigal Nov 2013 #86
This so tragic and should never have to happen in our nation gopiscrap Nov 2013 #90
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