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Samantha

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45. We think somewhat alike on this subject -- here is the last paragraph of a post I made today
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 02:31 AM
Nov 2013

"Bullets and fingerprints aside, there are much larger questions to be answered: who planned the assassination, who organized the minutia of the detail, what principals participated, and why did they do it. It is an extremely healthy endeavor that we undertake in continuing to attempt to learn the answers to these questions in order to better protect our Presidents now and in the future, and additionally to hold accountable those who played a role who are today still living."

I believe the assassination was literally planned by Johnson's attorney in Texas named Edward Clark. Clark had represented Johnson since the inception of his political career, in other words for decades. Johnson had an incredible number of skeletons in his closet. While some of these skeletons have in the past made the public media, many today are just not talked about often, if ever, publicly.

Johnson was Clark's cash cow, and if and when he became President, the rewards would be astronomical for both. So Clark would protect Johnson at all costs.

Of course, Johnson was from the state of Texas and was no stranger to either the players of the military industrial complex and BIG OIL. Kennedy's failure to engage in a war against the Soviets over the Cuban missile crisis, his failure to escalate the Vietnam war into a full fledged war, the rumors in Washington that he was planning to pull out 1,000 advisors by the end of 1963 infuriated many well-placed power brokers as well as wealthy businessmen. They saw Kennedy as weak on national security and an impediment to the profits of big business. He had to go.

During Kennedy's first term, while Johnson was sitting in the Vice President's Office, he was threatened by two personal scandals, either one of which could result in his being ejected from that seat. One of them was the Billy Sol Estes scandal who was facing Federal fraud charges and who gave a lot of money to Johnson's campaigns. He also received a lot of assistance with cotton allotments and Johnson "helped" him with that. Large amounts of money and other assistance was involved in the Johnson/Estes relationship, and when Estes came up for criminal charges, Johnson was panic-stricken. The other scandal facing Johnson was his relationship with Bobby Baker who provided women for "entertainment" purposes to members in Congress. The Republicans were doing all they could to stir up these scandals and the Senate was starting hearings. Johnson knew as Vice President he faced exposure and possible expulsion should he be charged in either scandal; however, as President neither could touch him.

Add to all of this mix, Johnson and Kennedy despised each other and you have the recipe for an assassination. This is part of the answer to the question Why.

I believe the "cook" for the recipe was Edward Clark, as suggested by Barr McClellan, another attorney who work with Clark and the author of the book, Blood, Power and Money. He suggests in his book Johnson was kept in the "wood-shed" from the details. In that way, he could react convincingly when the President was assassinated and he could never reveal the details of the planning if he did not know them.

But not only for Johnson, but also for the other interested parties mentioned above, Clark planned the assassination, put the pieces together and implemented the whole operation. Oswald, I believe, was involved, but I also believe Mac Wallace, a long-time Johnson associate and hit-man, was a second shooter. A fingerprint that remained unidentified for 35 years, one found in the sixth-floor sniper's nest, was identified in the late 90s by an expert named A. Nathan Darby and independently confirmed by a French fingerprint expert, who was not supplied the name of the matter under investigation or the suspected identity of the person to whom the fingerprints belonged.

Considering the longstanding history Johnson and Clark had with Big Oil, the Military Industrial Complex, wealthy businessmen as well as expert hitmen and other nefarious people, a lot of the necessary players were easily gathered by them for participation and financing of an assassination of the President. Only the cover-up would be tricky but they also knew people who could assist with that....

Sam


This past article makes a case against the CIA. It also argues the relevance to today's politics. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #1
Excellent article...... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #2
If that's true...it's a serious warning to Obama. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #5
CNN makes a case for this theory... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #8
Nope. The article is nonsense. JFK was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Period. duffyduff Nov 2013 #69
It was Ace Ventura... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2013 #3
Please. Wilms Nov 2013 #4
The so-called "one bullet theory" is a proven fact cpwm17 Nov 2013 #7
I think so as well. Bennyboy Nov 2013 #10
And we'll continue to disagree about that. n/t Wilms Nov 2013 #14
Bullshit. Octafish Nov 2013 #19
Show CE-399 from bottom. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #20
Here it is. Octafish Nov 2013 #36
Was any blood or tissue meanit Nov 2013 #42
No blood, bone, tissue, or clothing fibers. It was clean. Octafish Nov 2013 #44
I see, meanit Nov 2013 #46
They ignored it, as with everything that didn't match their theory. Octafish Nov 2013 #49
Sure, I can cut and paste links too. What's up with the bullets on the bottom? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #43
What is your take on Dr. Charles Chenshaw? pangaia Nov 2013 #55
Bullshit propaganda. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #21
Most of what I wrote are not opinions cpwm17 Nov 2013 #24
Speculation, conjecture, opinion, tomato, tomahto. I don't see any facts. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #25
Tomato, tomahto? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #29
You've been mislead cpwm17 Nov 2013 #33
Nonsense. You are unconvincing. But you have your reasons I am sure. Carry on. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #34
Facts in the same way that "Saddam has WMDs!" was a fact. EOTE Nov 2013 #67
Keep rolling your eyes. And keep your tinfoil on tight. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2013 #17
Nothing creative about it Major Nikon Nov 2013 #22
Nova: JFK Cold Case cpwm17 Nov 2013 #40
50 years of 'Money trumps peace.' Octafish Nov 2013 #6
There are Photos of Poppy at the Book depository Bennyboy Nov 2013 #9
Wow, documents at the link that really link Poppy to the day anyway.... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #11
Sorry. Updated link to Cindy Sheehan... Octafish Nov 2013 #13
Oswald was a patsy DiverDave Nov 2013 #12
Nope Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #15
I almost thought you were serious. Good one. You got me. LOL. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #27
You read the Warren report. Good for you. What were the results of the detailed examination GoneFishin Nov 2013 #32
Does it matter? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #37
Huge hole in back, tiny hole in front. Doesn't fly. Sorry. Have a good evening. Done. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #39
Tiny hole in the front of what? Do you even know what you're talking about? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #41
Cool. Someone knows how to draw cartoons. I understand your position. But it is not proof. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #47
It's 100% consistent with autopsy photos, x-rays, and the Zapruder film. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #50
I am claiming that all that "evidence" has grave chain of custody issues wherein the potential GoneFishin Nov 2013 #59
Absurd Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #60
+1000, but you are arguing with people who love the mystery! Logic does not apply. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #35
JFK was interfering with the profits and power of many powerful people steeped in GoneFishin Nov 2013 #48
Hi gonefishin' econoclast Nov 2013 #54
Keep on peddling that debunked silliness. Someone might believe you. n/t GoneFishin Nov 2013 #58
But wouldn't Ruby have killed Oswald under different conditions treestar Nov 2013 #16
Or the conspiracy would have made sure he got away Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #18
There is no reason to believe in a conspiracy. Springslips Nov 2013 #23
Oswald acted alone. There is NO evidence after five decades anybody else was responsible. duffyduff Nov 2013 #26
If there was any doubt that there are pros on this site, we have our answer now. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #28
"If there was any doubt that there are pros on this site, we have our answer now." zappaman Nov 2013 #38
Pro the opposite of THIS. Octafish Nov 2013 #57
Kennedy had managed to piss off a lot of the right people in his 2 years in office Warpy Nov 2013 #30
Agree Sequoia Nov 2013 #53
I agree gopiscrap Nov 2013 #31
We think somewhat alike on this subject -- here is the last paragraph of a post I made today Samantha Nov 2013 #45
Magic One Bullet Theory Propogated by NOVA funded by David Koch Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #51
Conspiracy theory propagated by notorious birther and right-wing hack Jerome Corsi. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #56
Jerome Corsi? You'll to explain further because there's no such link to the guy Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #61
Sure there is Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #62
Again. There's no such thing as Jerome Corsi referenced in my post. Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #64
No, there's a pretty blatant attempt to invoke guilt by asociation though. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #70
The only nutcase is the one who brings up something never mentioned Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #72
Sure it was. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #74
Now you're just making up stuff. Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #75
Are you denying your own words? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #76
Thanks. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #71
If Ruby was sent to silence Oswald, why was no one sent to silence Ruby? stopbush Nov 2013 #52
Reelz Channel Faux pas Nov 2013 #63
Yet more proof that the desire for the JFK Assassination to have been a deep, complex, shadowy Aristus Nov 2013 #65
Shhhh! zappaman Nov 2013 #66
Are you kidding me? There isn't anybody other than Oswald who did it. duffyduff Nov 2013 #68
Your short list ignores three obvious choices, the Republicans, the Mob, and the Commies. Coyotl Nov 2013 #73
Dallas was a hotbed of right-wing hatred against a Democratic president. ... JEFF9K Nov 2013 #77
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