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In reply to the discussion: Will the cranks be ok if we add this Iran deal to "the list"? [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)they largely use and rely upon the same "debating", etc, tactics those rightwingnut bogeymen use, and for the same reasons I'm guessing a need not list here in their entirety.
It's much easier better to get the messenger into defense mode with personal garbage than to mount a defense against their "offensive" message. In all these cases, their argument seems to be that the threat from rightwingnuttery is so great that criticism of the "good guys" should be disallowed lest support for them be diminished. It's naked advocacy for ignoring the baby steps taken towards the blurring of the line between who are and aren't the bad guys, like the good guy shouldn't be called out when he does bad because that somehow diminishes the badness of the bad guys or promotes more badness outta them or something, as opposed to merely representing a blemish on the good guy that knowingly sought it.
It's really as I've long argued it around here, a self-defeating effort and prophecy. I can ally myself with others when sufficient common ground and goals are to be found, but I draw a line when they ask me to leave the party so to speak, with crank, etc, talk. That's an "unwelcome" mat just as visible at their door as the ones blacks, gays, etc see in front of the repub tent. As we know though, that's the length to which many of them are willing to go to protect their "triangulation" efforts and remain free of any criticism for it.
You like me and many others I suspect, are simply no longer willing to allow the fear of rightwingnuttery to justify baby steps in that direction, because it merely adds to the length of the life of that rightwingnuttery, not shortens it. That's the dynamics behind DC's shift rightward as the country goes left, and it's inescapable that they have a particapatory role in that.
Thats' what all the "crank", "Hater", etc BS is supposed to but fails to obscure, and why they are often weaklings virtually indistinguishable from the common rightwingnut troll in the methods and means, and particularly the use of reliance on offensive offense like that as their only defense.
have a good one dude -- gotta scoot