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Beacool

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36. I credit the Russians for ending Soviet rule, not Reagan.

Reply to calimary (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 05:20 PM

Nov 2013

If the Russians and Gorbachev hadn't been receptive to change, it wouldn't have happened. A nation changes from within, outside forces may influence change, but it cannot determine it without the participants being willing to enact said change.

I give the majority of the credit to Gorbachev and Rouhani for the changes they forged in their respective countries. One word of caution though, the deal with Iran is an initial step, but it remains to be seen if they follow though with their promises.

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I'M IN TEARS.... [View all] Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP

They must like that we have a prez who doesn't refer to them as an " axis of evil" JaneyVee Nov 2013 #1

+ Infinity Octafish Nov 2013 #24

+++ Whisp Nov 2013 #37

I suspect they are. Laelth Nov 2013 #2

Wow! GREAT map, Laelth! calimary Nov 2013 #14

I've looked back, and I can't figure out where the map came from. Laelth Nov 2013 #33

Could have found it here? csziggy Nov 2013 #34

holy crap. totally surrounded. ffs. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #15

I am in tears as well Heather MC Nov 2013 #3

Iran would have been the tipping point Cirque du So-What Nov 2013 #4

I've told several people who were hawkish on Iran that we'd need to have a draft if we LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #6

If they're hawks, then do THEY plan to suit up and go over there themselves? calimary Nov 2013 #12

We are only experiencing a temporary delay in endless war track. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #20

I wish you were kidding as well demwing Nov 2013 #31

I don't know when we've had a better Democratic administration regarding LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #5

So true! nt flamingdem Nov 2013 #10

Republicans can't obstruct foreign policy. gulliver Nov 2013 #16

I was thinking the exact same thing. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #21

Maybe Carter with the Camp David accords? nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #22

Gee, ya think? mountain grammy Nov 2013 #26

We have been looking for ways... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #29

Republicans may "have a better reputation on foreign policy" mountain grammy Nov 2013 #25

Well, there would have been no deal if Rouhani hadn't thrown the first volley. Beacool Nov 2013 #7

You're right, he did reach out and he deserves credit for that, too. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #8

He deserves a lot of credit. Beacool Nov 2013 #9

The rest of the world, including the U.S., gets a lot of credit for Rouhani. gulliver Nov 2013 #17

I agree. Beacool Nov 2013 #35

This is a HUGELY important point to keep in mind!!! calimary Nov 2013 #13

I credit the Russians for ending Soviet rule, not Reagan. Beacool Nov 2013 #36

Good point. Under Ahmadinejad our administration was willing to go to war if they had ever completed liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #18

I see what you done there. Whisp Nov 2013 #27

If there is a God libodem Nov 2013 #11

There are MANY in Iran (amd the ex-pats) who remember when Iran was NOT SoCalDem Nov 2013 #19

So nice to read a thread on DU JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #23

The grown-ups are back in charge Blue Owl Nov 2013 #28

For the first time since the Camp David accords, I have hope fort the middle east... mountain grammy Nov 2013 #30

Yes, crying for joy! ananda Nov 2013 #32