Actually, five separate government investigations came to the same conclusion as the WC. (Reply #66)

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Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:30 AM

stopbush (22,721 posts)

66. Actually, five separate government investigations came to the same conclusion as the WC.

That Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK.

That includes the HSCA, the FBI, the Ramsey Clark Panel, the Rockefeller Commission and, of course, the WC.

The HSCA believed that there was another shooter, but they based that conclusion on bogus evidence that has since been utterly falsified by scientific research.

Like yourself, the majority of Americans don't know that. How else to explain your believing that only the WC determined that Oswald alone killed JFK?

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So... The Majority Here At DU Think It Was A Conspiracy, As Do A Majority Of Americans... [View all]	WillyT	Nov 2013	OP
So vocal?	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#1
Its getting to be a lot like Fox's war on Christmas.	JoePhilly	Nov 2013	#92
You mean like posting 10 different threads about the same thing?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#2
I thought Obama was born on the moon but	Jackpine Radical	Nov 2013	#127
Well, when you repeatedly "call out" people for not sharing your belief...	Scootaloo	Nov 2013	#3
I Don't Believe I've Ever Told ANYBODY To Stop Posting Their Beliefs, Concerns, Positions, Etc...	WillyT	Nov 2013	#4
Well, the answer is obvious	Scootaloo	Nov 2013	#5
Whoa... You Have A Good Night OK ???	WillyT	Nov 2013	#6
LOL	Scootaloo	Nov 2013	#8
Really? If that is how you approach issues, just make stuff up, then it's no wonder	sabrina 1	Nov 2013	#13
but others have...	Th1onein	Nov 2013	#131
The most obvious but unfocused on question is who . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#7
Of all the errors in this post, I'll pick just one.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#10
rofl. NT	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#12
Why kill Oswald then if he was the lone nut?	brush	Nov 2013	#16
Jack Ruby killed him because he was angry that Oswald shot Kennedy.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#17
Google Ruby	brush	Nov 2013	#24
So thats what you consider a reputable source?	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#25
To believe, imo, that Oswald killed Kennedy . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#27
I don't claim to know what was in either man's mind.	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#31
Believe the single shooter thing if you want	brush	Nov 2013	#34
My dear brush	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#37
Where is the evidence of that?	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#52
CE399 The so called magic bullet	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#56
Nonsense.	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#65
Oh boy. I feel like Sam Beckett, when he just leaped into another person.	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#68
I went and looked for the latest info on ballistics etc	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#83
Briefly.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#57
Thanks for presenting the facts - saved me the time.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#58
I continue to be shocked at just how few facts the CTers are actually aware of.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#61
Actually, they are willfully and blissfully unaware of the facts in the JFK case.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#63
Its a conspiracy of ignorance.	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#64
Since you ignored my last question, let's try round 2.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#32
And why not kill Oswald before the police catch him.	JoePhilly	Nov 2013	#128
Yes, if you google hard enough you can eventually find a website that says whatever you want.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#26
What factual matter do you have that Oswald killed Kennedy alone but the Warren Commission?	brush	Nov 2013	#30
All of the testimony and the evidence on record, and with the findings	DanTex	Nov 2013	#33
Sure, sure. Keep believing it if you want.	brush	Nov 2013	#35
Yes, that's what I do in the face of conclusive evidence.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#38
The Warren Commission did not have factual evidence that Oswald acted alone	Samantha	Nov 2013	#59
The Mac Wallace story is a fraud concocted by conspiracy theorists.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#67
Bugliosi is full of it.	eomer	Nov 2013	#91
No, you are full of it.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#93
Read Bugliosi's confused account as many times as you'd like, it's still wrong.	eomer	Nov 2013	#95
OK then. It's been a interesting trip down the rabbit hole...	DanTex	Nov 2013	#96
Bugliosi claims it was a palm print compared with a fingerprint, Darby says it was two fingerprints	eomer	Nov 2013	#106
Sigh. Bugliosi is saying that the prints that Darby matched were not the unidentified latent prints	DanTex	Nov 2013	#113
So you're sticking to your story that a fingerprint expert found a 14-point match	eomer	Nov 2013	#120
LOL. When proven run the conspiracy nut runs and hides.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#122
When you've made an ass of yourself, claim victory!	eomer	Nov 2013	#126
I usually agree with Vincent Bugliosi but not this time	Samantha	Nov 2013	#121
His intention was to demonstrate that the conspiracy theorists did not actually	DanTex	Nov 2013	#124
First of all, Barr McClellan was one of Johnson's attorneys, not some remote conspiracy theorist	Samantha	Nov 2013	#148
He was most definitely a conspiracy theorist.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#153
He was a member of Johnson's legal team and had inside information	Samantha	Nov 2013	#155
Tell you what.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#156
I am impressed	Samantha	Nov 2013	#160
Oh Dear	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#161
ONE photocopy of a cardboard-box print was claimed to match a photocopy	struggle4progress	Nov 2013	#140
Wallace was murdered in 1971 as a result of his exhaust being rigged	Samantha	Nov 2013	#149
It's speculation reported as fact. If you want to complain about the general atmosphere in Texas	struggle4progress	Nov 2013	#150
Actually, five separate government investigations came to the same conclusion as the WC.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#66
5 seperate investigations?	brush	Nov 2013	#69
So I stood up and told that teachin' lady...	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#71
They were all based on the evidence.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#72
There sure seem to be a lot of people . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#73
Maybe some of them have been paid, not me though, lol.	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#74
That's because before the JFK assassination...	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#75
Not me. I don't care what you believe. I'm not here to get anyone to buy into anything.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#76
We'll agree to disagree. Please continue with the buy-in campaign. nt	brush	Nov 2013	#81
You are not disagreeing with people.	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#84
Wonder what the Kennedy family thinks about your position? nt	brush	Nov 2013	#89
Try this link . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#152
Interesting, yes.	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#154
Enjoy your ignorance-is-bliss non-review of the evidence.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#85
Wonder what the Kennedy family thinks about your position? nt	brush	Nov 2013	#90
Depends which generation of Kennedys you ask.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#116
His son has recently expressed doubt about the lone shooter theory. nt	brush	Nov 2013	#135
That would be RFK Jr, the zealous spokesman for the "vaccines cause autism" claque,	stopbush	Nov 2013	#136
Don't think he's the only in the family . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#138
You cited him as a source, not me, so why go off on the "family' tangent?	stopbush	Nov 2013	#139
I cited the family first . . . oh, never mind. Seems we're both talking to our respective choir.	brush	Nov 2013	#141
Shame On You !!!	WillyT	Nov 2013	#142
Thanks for the humor. eom	stopbush	Nov 2013	#143
Yeah... You're One Funny...	WillyT	Nov 2013	#144
Try this link . . .	brush	Nov 2013	#151
Desperation is the right word.	Rex	Nov 2013	#98
Jack Ruby's statements before and after killing Oswald disprove your claim	stopbush	Nov 2013	#77
Says the poster with the most threads on the subject. lol.	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#9
I think it's the other way around when it comes to being vocal and sensitive.	Kaleva	Nov 2013	#11
My problem with the whole thing is they locked up everything for 75 years. That tells me	shraby	Nov 2013	#14
People keep saying this and it is not true. Please inform yourself and stop spreading misinformation	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#15
Ah, Young One... You Spread Yourself Obviously Thin...	WillyT	Nov 2013	#20
Mmm...spread thin...like the glaze on a Krispy Kreme.	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#21
Another "fact" that is repeated but in fact has no basis.	grantcart	Nov 2013	#19
I remember when they did it. That's exactly how it was presented and stuff is still	shraby	Nov 2013	#158
What you remember is somebody saying that, but it was never true.	grantcart	Nov 2013	#163
Yup, strange that the ol' U.S. guvimment had to lock it up for so damned long.	Major Hogwash	Nov 2013	#79
You are aware that most people who have looked at the scientific	grantcart	Nov 2013	#18
Seriously ??? - "Bugliosi's Work" ???	WillyT	Nov 2013	#22
Even if you mocked him like that a hundred thousand times	BootinUp	Nov 2013	#23
Unless you can honestly tell us that you yourself have read Bugliosi's book,	stopbush	Nov 2013	#80
This message was self-deleted by its author	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#28
What I find interesting is that they will not acknowledge the possibility that others helped Oswald	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#29
Yes, it's possible. But zero evidence has been found to suggest that.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#36
IT'S POSSIBLE	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#39
OK, now your turn.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#40
I believe that it is likely that LHO shot Kennedy,	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#42
It is extremely unlikely that Oswald had help.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#48
Yes, it is possible.	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#51
Since we're treating each other with respect...	DanTex	Nov 2013	#55
Whenever I've thought about the afterlife, the first thing I always think of is learning what really	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#88
Conspiracy theorists rarely ask good questions.	greyl	Nov 2013	#43
Responding indicates that you believe there is a chance that LHO	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#47
There's no evidence LHO had help in the way I think you mean,	greyl	Nov 2013	#82
I have one point and one point only and that is that it is VERY reasonable to believe that LHO	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#86
That indicates it was an example of dishonest argumentation from a conspiracy theory fan, right?	greyl	Nov 2013	#157
'What evidence makes you so certain that LHO had help?'	Jetboy	Nov 2013	#159
In a very real way, JFK helped Oswald kill JFK.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#78
They can't. As soon as you entertain that possibility, the whole Warren Theory crashes down.	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#94
Specific to point 2	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#100
Here, then.	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#102
In other words. NONE of them was successful	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#111
Where do you come up with this bogus "1.66 seconds"?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#114
That is the time between the second and third shot	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#118
No it wasn't?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#123
There shouldn't be any controversy about the timing.	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#133
There is no controversy about the timing.	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#134
1.66 seconds! LOL!	DanTex	Nov 2013	#130
Really?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#101
as to "moving target"	jberryhill	Nov 2013	#132
LOL! So you are saying we are like most Americans?	Rex	Nov 2013	#41
Same reason the same people were apoplectic about Snowden. They are authoritarians.	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#44
Exactly.	polichick	Nov 2013	#45
Jeezus people! We are through the looking glass here!	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#50
As I was saying, authoritarians. Attack anybody who questions authority.	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#53
No.	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#54
You've got that backwards.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#60
Most of this BS is not "questioning" anything.	Silent3	Nov 2013	#97
Not really, no, it's more like this:	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#129
Exactly! The very reason the DU forum was started for!	Major Hogwash	Nov 2013	#137
It makes me wonder why they are here at all	BlueStreak	Nov 2013	#147
Evidence	colsohlibgal	Nov 2013	#46
What about this evidence?	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#49
"I know the right acquires operatives to dispute liberal claims on message boards..."	Bolo Boffin	Nov 2013	#87
Let's pick one of those - "the three tramps"	jberryhill	Nov 2013	#104
Charles Harrelson,	HockeyMom	Nov 2013	#107
The Dallas police records identified all three	jberryhill	Nov 2013	#109
A majority of Americans believed Saddam had WMD.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#62
Actually that was polled republicans that believed in WMD.	Rex	Nov 2013	#99
A Harris Poll taken in Nov 2004 found that 90% of Americans	stopbush	Nov 2013	#108
Funny cannot find that poll in their vault.	Rex	Nov 2013	#110
Probably right. Try searching on "Harris Poll Nov 2004 Saddam." You'll probably	stopbush	Nov 2013	#112
The vault might be limited, it is not in there.	Rex	Nov 2013	#115
Try this:	stopbush	Nov 2013	#117
'Would have made WMD' and 'believed he had WMD' are two different things completely.	Rex	Nov 2013	#119
Correct.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#125
I do!	gopiscrap	Nov 2013	#70
A majority of Americans also believe ghosts, God, Jesus, and angels are real.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#103
+1	jberryhill	Nov 2013	#105
Yeah... I Know... How Stupid ARE Those People ???	WillyT	Nov 2013	#145
Unicorns, aliens... I know a Republican	upi402	Nov 2013	#162
Gatekeepers, Hall Monitors, Know-it-alls...	whatchamacallit	Nov 2013	#146

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