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In reply to the discussion: So... The Majority Here At DU Think It Was A Conspiracy, As Do A Majority Of Americans... [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)156. Tell you what.
I disagree with just about everything in this post. But I like your sincerity and your overall tone. So I will pick up McClellan's book and read it.
A few points in rebuttal.
I think it is totally fine for you to disagree with McClellan but he does not deserve to be treated so disrespectfully.
I would counter that my treatment of McClellan is not nearly as disrespectful as your (and McClellan's) treatment of LBJ: accusing him of assassinating the president (and others). Whatever McClellan might have done to deserve respect, LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. Accusing McClellan of faking a fingerprint is mild in comparison to accusing LBJ of murder.
Regarding the fingerprints, McClellan requested and receive the print evidence from the Warren Commission.
Sure. That doesn't come close to proving that the fingerprints he showed Darby were the same ones he got from the WC. The fact that Darby has pages of affadavits is completely irrelevant to this question. Since the test was blind, nothing that Darby said could possibly have any bearing on whether the prints were actually from the TSBD. Again, the WC clearly states that the only unidentified prints were palm prints. There is nothing at all to suggest that the unidentified palm prints also contained a fingerprint.
It would seem to be a trivial matter to perform a verified fingerprint analysis, where someone other than a conspiracy theorist verifies the fact that the matched fingerprint was actually taken from the TSBD.
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So... The Majority Here At DU Think It Was A Conspiracy, As Do A Majority Of Americans... [View all]
WillyT
Nov 2013
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I Don't Believe I've Ever Told ANYBODY To Stop Posting Their Beliefs, Concerns, Positions, Etc...
WillyT
Nov 2013
#4
Really? If that is how you approach issues, just make stuff up, then it's no wonder
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#13
Actually, they are willfully and blissfully unaware of the facts in the JFK case.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#63
Yes, if you google hard enough you can eventually find a website that says whatever you want.
DanTex
Nov 2013
#26
What factual matter do you have that Oswald killed Kennedy alone but the Warren Commission?
brush
Nov 2013
#30
Bugliosi claims it was a palm print compared with a fingerprint, Darby says it was two fingerprints
eomer
Nov 2013
#106
Sigh. Bugliosi is saying that the prints that Darby matched were not the unidentified latent prints
DanTex
Nov 2013
#113
So you're sticking to your story that a fingerprint expert found a 14-point match
eomer
Nov 2013
#120
His intention was to demonstrate that the conspiracy theorists did not actually
DanTex
Nov 2013
#124
First of all, Barr McClellan was one of Johnson's attorneys, not some remote conspiracy theorist
Samantha
Nov 2013
#148
ONE photocopy of a cardboard-box print was claimed to match a photocopy
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#140
It's speculation reported as fact. If you want to complain about the general atmosphere in Texas
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#150
Actually, five separate government investigations came to the same conclusion as the WC.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#66
Not me. I don't care what you believe. I'm not here to get anyone to buy into anything.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#76
That would be RFK Jr, the zealous spokesman for the "vaccines cause autism" claque,
stopbush
Nov 2013
#136
I cited the family first . . . oh, never mind. Seems we're both talking to our respective choir.
brush
Nov 2013
#141
My problem with the whole thing is they locked up everything for 75 years. That tells me
shraby
Nov 2013
#14
People keep saying this and it is not true. Please inform yourself and stop spreading misinformation
The Midway Rebel
Nov 2013
#15
I remember when they did it. That's exactly how it was presented and stuff is still
shraby
Nov 2013
#158
Yup, strange that the ol' U.S. guvimment had to lock it up for so damned long.
Major Hogwash
Nov 2013
#79
What I find interesting is that they will not acknowledge the possibility that others helped Oswald
Jetboy
Nov 2013
#29
Whenever I've thought about the afterlife, the first thing I always think of is learning what really
Jetboy
Nov 2013
#88
I have one point and one point only and that is that it is VERY reasonable to believe that LHO
Jetboy
Nov 2013
#86
That indicates it was an example of dishonest argumentation from a conspiracy theory fan, right?
greyl
Nov 2013
#157
They can't. As soon as you entertain that possibility, the whole Warren Theory crashes down.
BlueStreak
Nov 2013
#94
Same reason the same people were apoplectic about Snowden. They are authoritarians.
BlueStreak
Nov 2013
#44
"I know the right acquires operatives to dispute liberal claims on message boards..."
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#87
Probably right. Try searching on "Harris Poll Nov 2004 Saddam." You'll probably
stopbush
Nov 2013
#112
'Would have made WMD' and 'believed he had WMD' are two different things completely.
Rex
Nov 2013
#119
A majority of Americans also believe ghosts, God, Jesus, and angels are real.
HooptieWagon
Nov 2013
#103