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In reply to the discussion: The imminent backlash of the Democratic Left. [View all]Enthusiast
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That is exactly what happened. He gave soaring speeches with no content. Now his supporters say
Vincardog
Jan 2014
#727
I think that's exactly what the Tea Party is doing to the right at the moment.
Xipe Totec
Dec 2013
#2
And for much the same reason. It isn't a matter of philosophy, it is the result of
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#5
Interesting thing though is that the Tea Party started out as disaffected Repugs...
bluesbassman
Dec 2013
#65
We won't see that, the left has no support from the rich except insofar as their willingness
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#82
Saboteurs have been disrupting liberal uprisings ever since Justice Powell wrote his manifesto in
loudsue
Dec 2013
#149
Exactly - they have these neat military tools to keep us in check bodily and mentally
Hestia
Dec 2013
#433
You could not be more wrong. The issues and the electorate are entirely different now.
Enthusiast
Dec 2013
#312
I disagree, respectfully.Bill Clinton rebranded himself a "new democrat" but was in
lexington filly
Dec 2013
#341
Yea ...let's keep the party moving right ...because that's where the money and votes are.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#40
"If you want more left leaning candidates get them elected in the primaries" is a "battered spouse"?
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#604
Who besides you is advocating for not voting? Please give a link to a post from
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#138
It means what it says, I will no longer vote for a candidate just because they
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#260
Wow, who knew it could be that simple? Why has no one thought of this before? n/t
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#375
No, I am suggesting a radical idea, voting for the best candidate regardless of party. n/t
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#434
No, I am suggesting a radical idea, voting for the best candidate regardless of party. n/t
AlbertCat
Dec 2013
#438
"If you don't agree with Democrats, run some people in the primaries." !!! THIS!!!
bvar22
Jan 2014
#715
"not voted for a Democrat in over 10 years" "the candidate I voted for was and is now the President"
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#606
Nothing but the truth, think about it, I know you will be able to figure it out. n/t
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#623
Yes I voted for someone picked by a party, the party was Working Family instead of
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#665
But Obama is not a member of the Working Families Party; he is a Democrat
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#666
i don't think so.. they will run their own candidates for local stuff... but for national or
dionysus
Jan 2014
#725
No, I'm not saying President Obama isn't a Democrat, I'm saying he is more than a Democrat.
A Simple Game
Dec 2013
#647
"faced with a choice between a "Republican Republican" and a "Democratic Repulican""...
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#377
I am sure that is exactly the opinion any self-interested plantation owner would take
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#461
Maybe because we have grown up over the past number of years, we have learned that the phrase
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#493
Ask the Party Leadership. The voters have no control over them winning. Voters will vote only for
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#510
Rahm Emmanuel was the one who told those who won the election, that 'minority' you just spoke of,
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#550
I know the word 'purist' is INTENDED to be an insult, that was clear when it first appeared on
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#564
The 'idea' that Emmanuel called 'retarded' was running ads against conservative Democrats in 2009
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2013
#617
You mean ads against Third Wayers/Republican lite candidates which OF COURSE Rahm the Corporatist
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#630
Those who unnecessarily drive the Democratic party to the right are to blame
AgingAmerican
Dec 2013
#583
They can't admit their responsibility in the loss of Congress in 2010. See the convulated excuses
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#631
Excellent post, thank you. I wonder what it will take for the Party Leadership to realize that they
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#633
Yes and if WE lose, the People that is, I know who I will be blaming and it won't be the voters.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#705
Problem is, we've been holding our noses and voting for the lesser of evils...
polichick
Dec 2013
#327
You don't think we could get someone to run for the Senate, the House and the presidency
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#356
Last I heard, the chained CPI is still in the budget. I won't vote for anyone who votes
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#240
Ok, now I'm confused- by "right wing plants"- do you mean plants from the Tea Party? Or "centrists"?
LooseWilly
Dec 2013
#62
I'd say the "weak willed" are those willing to accept any degradation of Liberal values
Maedhros
Dec 2013
#162
Chained CPI; supporting charter schools; giving breaks to Wall Street instead of
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#243
Democrats could have increased the minimum wage when they had both houses of
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#285
I would agree with you except for the fact that the wealth of the corporate managers, especially
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#532
Look. The right-wing of the Democratic Party has lost a lot of working people
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#352
And who will be responsible if that happens? Surely you are not blaming voters when the blame lies
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#660
FDR didn't replace Henry Wallace. The Democratic party leaders did at the Convention.
octoberlib
Dec 2013
#537
Where's Andy? Maybe Andy has something more important to do, I'll check back tomorrow. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#281
Bullshit. Voting for corporate-friendly Democrats does NOT enable Progressive policies.
Maedhros
Dec 2013
#295
Bullshit. There's no way in hell that the progressive agenda is served in any way
cheapdate
Dec 2013
#313
Don't short-sell the Democrats - they also have manipulators that they pay to make bad policy
Maedhros
Dec 2013
#475
It only seems "FAR LEFT" to them when they are FAR RIGHT and think they are centre.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#310
So you like to disparage the left do you? To what aim? Are you trying to split the party?
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#315
You are EXACTLY right. The TeaLEFT is almost as bad as the TeaRIGHT. Both are awash in radical
RBInMaine
Dec 2013
#380
You are completely WRONG about my state, and I am not disparaging actual liberals. Read on:
RBInMaine
Dec 2013
#540
You only think of one because you see the world through a non-realist purist lens. Read on:
RBInMaine
Dec 2013
#541
+a stone cold billion Julie. Astonishing to see people who claim to be so smart
Number23
Dec 2013
#136
I'm sure that made perfect sense in your head. Here, this is for you and your pals
Number23
Dec 2013
#232
I'm not the one starting an OP trying to pretend that me and my nine other friends hold
Number23
Dec 2013
#283
When you find a point, why don't you bring it along with you into this thread? Up until now
Number23
Dec 2013
#289
First you project that "claim to be so smart" was said then project an Obama poll has anything to do
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#294
So now you resort to complaining about how many times a person posts??? What a joke!
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#303
Yes, throwing "ProjecTION!1" out with so obviously no idea what that means is a better strategy
Number23
Dec 2013
#308
What was that about "typos and lack of point"? Heh ...wow ...hey you aren't pissed off are ya bro?
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#316
You're putting me on ignore???! Oh joy!! And lucky for you, there's no spelling involved!
Number23
Dec 2013
#328
Your understanding of "begging" is as good as your understanding of "projection"
Number23
Dec 2013
#347
Just what I was going to ask...except that it was 309 recs last time I checked.
Raksha
Dec 2013
#646
So why would a Democrat want to disparage the left? What issues do you disagree with?
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#318
Every single time you have tried to come after me, the conversation ends with you running
Number23
Dec 2013
#325
Dont flatter yourself. You arent that good at bullying. You just seem to like to
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#353
I'm not that good at bullying?? Was I trying to be?? Particularly as YOU are the one that has
Number23
Dec 2013
#376
My "1st grade attempts?" Again that's a very weak attempt. Your post is pure projection.
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#422
Oh Praise the Lord! Can you make your little friend live up to his promise to put
Number23
Dec 2013
#481
No, the problem is entirely YOURS as you have shown REPEATEDLY in this thread
Number23
Dec 2013
#500
"needless net nannying as if anyone asked you to involve yourself" OMG the irony.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#508
"no interest in what you have to say about anything" ...and yet you keep responding.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#425
Yea ...what is it with that? Does the left make them feel uncomfortable or something ...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#331
I am guessing that those that disparage the left do so because they covet conservative ideologies.
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#355
This is an example of why the OP is correct. Fearmongering instead of discussing what went wrong
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#34
We are talking about two different processes inside the reality of politics.
truedelphi
Dec 2013
#302
'We have to compromise'. Sorry, we've been doing that. THEY have to compromise.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#183
Or is it a question of compromising with Republicans who claim to be Democrats?
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#252
People who have always voted WILL vote, but as we saw in 2010, they will vote for Progressive
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#266
...and the Dem party "it seems" is catering to the defectors and embracing them while discarding...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#44
I am not at all surprised that you cant see the difference. The left are holding onto principles
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#173
Amen. As i read the OP, I'm thinking "Switch Dem with GOP and left with tea party"
7962
Dec 2013
#396
Let us know when the rich who make money from the MIC will contribute to the anti war...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#8
you're turning the definition on its head. It's those who insist on voting for the lesser of 2 evils
yodermon
Dec 2013
#52
Oh come one now ...get with the program. If it has a (D) by its name ...vote for it.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#84
Damn dude, sociopathy. You'd think you were defending a drone program that regularly kills innocents
JoeyT
Dec 2013
#110
There still patting themselves on the back for the Clinton-era sanctions against Iraq
Maedhros
Dec 2013
#168
You wonder what we thought when Bush launched his criminal war? You mean you don't remember?
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#43
The Democratic Party is going to have to appeal to the left if it wants the Left's votes.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2013
#7
They'll appeal to us with cries of "not as bad" and the "lesser of two evils".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2013
#15
Yep. And, they will claim the Left gave the seats to the Republicans after the election.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2013
#41
It should be made clear right now. IF Democrats lose the next election, the ONLY people to blame
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#49
Yes, I supported DeBlasio due to his long history on progressive issues. I would not have supported
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#104
If he continues that trend, he will lose the next election and if he had told people he intended to
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#129
De Blasio Appoints Goldman Sachs Exec To Deputy Mayor Post For 'Fighting Inequality'
Phlem
Dec 2013
#208
If the candidate wants the votes of the left, then he must appeal to left wing voters.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2013
#654
To win, she will have to attract the Indepents who came out in 2008 to get rid of Bush policies
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#59
I was clear in what I said I believe. No candidate can win with just their base.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#91
Funny, From Where I'm Sitting It Looked Like They Came Out To Insure Bush's 3rd Term
Upward
Dec 2013
#190
You can thank Liberas for that, again. But since that's not likely to happen, we are where we are
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#264
Yes, very odd. We need to keep reminding them of their constant claim that Liberals aren't needed
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#362
If the Party steps up to defend and expand the safety net, we'll win in 2014 and 2016.
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#354
I think the point is, that the People will lose. The Party may win, but the victors will be Big Corp
2banon
Dec 2013
#307
Hmmm "Deserter Democratic Left" or the "Corporatist Democratic Right" ...decisions ...decisions
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#19
Oh? And what do you imagine the "Democrats" will accomplish without "the dead weight"?
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#24
Except the ones who might leave the Party are the ones who actually oppose
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#50
Rather ironic for you to be accusing anyone of "beating the donkey". n/t
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#106
You're not aware of the huge Coalition formed before the last election by various organizations
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#74
and you'll be front and center blaming the "Deserter Democratic Left" when the dems lose
frylock
Dec 2013
#133
Dem support for President Obama has SLIPPED to a whopping 77%, liberal Dem is at 79%
Number23
Dec 2013
#153
Withdrawing into fantasy again, I see. It's like there is some switch that lets you
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#265
+1. If we're going to indulge in corporate welfare, couldn't it be for businesses that are
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#29
Dems used to stand for things the people needed, not what big business needed.
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#118
As a Democrat, i'm presuming here, you surely don't have to ask that question?
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#122
the very fact that we are fighting desperately to save 'Obamacare" or the ACA to use its
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2013
#203
And it's a list of things that the President alone is not able to change. Check out who voted for
kelliekat44
Dec 2013
#406
wait...this is another symptom of DU...this list is ok, but the "other" list is scorned?
Sheepshank
Dec 2013
#601
Yep-- and self-described "centrists" have already proven themselves too fickle to be relied upon.
Marr
Dec 2013
#38
I have been saying this for a long time. Let us hope this is the moment in time. nt
silvershadow
Dec 2013
#51
I don't think the left is trying to take over the party. That's already happened by the right.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#68
Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Mike Gravel, Alan Greyson, Wendy Davis, Carl Sciortino...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#470
We must take back our Party. Support progressive organizations outside the Party
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#56
I can be contemptuously scoffed at and NOT represented by Republicans without lifting a finger.
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#81
Yes - two wars and the collapse of the economy with his brother was nothing to be afraid of
XRubicon
Dec 2013
#178
Everyone is thinking about this all wrong! It is not about Republican and Democrat any longer.
Dustlawyer
Dec 2013
#115
Okay, I think I have been here before. They killed my president and his brother and MLK. What the
jwirr
Dec 2013
#116
I'm compelled to say that you'd enable Republicans because of selfish reasons.
great white snark
Dec 2013
#131
So you're saying..We'd be better off to have a Republican President than a Dem like Bill Clinton?
Auntie Bush
Dec 2013
#137
"If the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and the White House, then so be it."
chieftain
Dec 2013
#144
+1,000,000 recs. The rich don't fear that we hate them, they fear that we don't hate each other."
mikekohr
Dec 2013
#234
Abso fucking lutely. At lease a few folks have OPENLY said in this thread and others that they want
Number23
Dec 2013
#235
+1. Shrugging off the result of another 8 years of GOP rule, with the death and discrimination, is a
freshwest
Dec 2013
#263
"I guess they value their posting privileges more than their principles." And you nailed it, Sid
Number23
Dec 2013
#286
"If the Republicans take over the House, Senate, and the White House, then so be it."
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2013
#644
I disagree with your assessment of the Democratic Party. One thing about polical parties is
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#147
We lost cuz Dems stayed at home when they saw the neocon agenda being furthered by our own party.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#198
We won it for ya. You know what we need to do. Stop the hoarding class. C'mon, it will be fun!!!
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#241
Do they have to be real progressives or is it good enough to imagine that they are?
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#213
I here ya and agree. Your vote is yours and you deserve to have a say in how things work.
Phlem
Dec 2013
#227
anything is better than having the Republicans in total control. Well, no, it isn't .
AlbertCat
Dec 2013
#221
A number of Republicans have moved to the Democratic Party complaining that their party left them.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2013
#230
I prefer to have Republicans in office who have an R after their name rather than a D.
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#231
Good Democrats would never sell out we the people by supporting the narrow interests of those with
indepat
Dec 2013
#246
#21 You Threaten To Form Your Own Party If You Don't Get 100% of What You Want
ConservativeDemocrat
Dec 2013
#253
Some pathetic, diluted, sold out group of empty minds voting without principles and conscience???
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#300
Anyone who knows the difference between the two parties and wants equality for all and cares
Sparky 1
Dec 2013
#373
These people are the reason the Democratic Party nearly went extinct in the 70s and 80s...
Drunken Irishman
Dec 2013
#378
Oh here we go again with TeaLeft extremism. Good. Stay home and BITCH again. Then when the ReSCUM
RBInMaine
Dec 2013
#379
Happy to kick this great OP and wonderful thread. DUer RC created this graphic to describe ...
Scuba
Dec 2013
#403
"Most Democrats do not want to hear this and refuse to accept that it will happen"
Progressive dog
Dec 2013
#407
Why be anti left Dem? What is it that causes Dems to move right instead of left?
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#432
If democracy enables the 1% control our government and ignorant minds then it has failed...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#580
I'm sure you know that this political message board is for progressives and not just democrats...
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#587
I'll stop with this... you can go on ...but I'm done with responding to you. Not worth my free time.
L0oniX
Dec 2013
#596
They also know that enough money can convince the minority that they're the majority.
winter is coming
Dec 2013
#695
Don't try to convince me that I should take one for the team by voting for politicians
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#411
There is no way that Dems escape their RW "corporate phase" without a paying a price
Teamster Jeff
Dec 2013
#446
Jeff, the Teamsters are paying a price for their "corporate phase" c'est pas. n/t
saidsimplesimon
Dec 2013
#456
We don't provide most of the money to the Party, but we are essential to its electability.
leveymg
Dec 2013
#453
We ARE the Party! Who is this 'we' you are talking about? You don't seem comfortable here among
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#706
No, it belongs to the people. Not the groups that pull out Koch money...
woo me with science
Dec 2013
#546
That’s the illusion of any real difference speaking, backed up by no real change.
fleabiscuit
Dec 2013
#534
If she does run and become prez, will she put the people ahead of corporations?
polichick
Dec 2013
#554
Agreed. As many Democrats say they support Hillary as supported any Democratic Presidential
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#535
If corporate Hillary wins don't blame me. I won't vote for her under any circumstances.
GoneFishin
Dec 2013
#542
That's what the Tea Party said about Romney, and look how well it turned out for them.
Beacool
Dec 2013
#552
GOTV is now the problem, since the 'beaten downs' know the rich and their two parties don't need
ancianita
Dec 2013
#544
Post any kind of divisive %$&* stirring and the usual folks get in line to lick the spoon.
great white snark
Dec 2013
#620
Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers: "Real Change Is Closer Than You Think"
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2013
#621
You guys rock DU. The Democratic Party? Not so much. Looks like you marshalled all the forces....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2013
#635
300 recs = an "illusion" of grandeur. Hell, you could pick up 300 recs from the tree place, y'know?
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2013
#639
I'm sorry, as a minority lgbt female, I do not have any choice but to vote for Democrats. If
Zorra
Dec 2013
#643
This implies that there is no difference between republicans and Democrats, and I reject that
lostincalifornia
Dec 2013
#676
Sensitive aren't you. I did NOT imply you should or should not leave, YOU DID in your OP.
lostincalifornia
Dec 2013
#679
I agree. Bill Clinton, I believe, set the foundation for where the Democratic party is today,
lostincalifornia
Dec 2013
#681
He definitely moved it to the right, and his policies of deregulation were right out of
lostincalifornia
Dec 2013
#683
I think so too. At the very least her candidacy would force an honesty on the other candidates
lostincalifornia
Dec 2013
#686
You have a point, but I think it might be different with Warren, maybe wishful thinking
lostincalifornia
Jan 2014
#704