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In reply to the discussion: There are exactly two ways to get rich [View all]El_Johns
(1,805 posts)70. "'Go where the rich and the powerful are,' I'd tell him, 'and learn their ways." = so true.
Children should be educated about this when they are very young & inoculated against the elite mythology promulgated by the media.
Most people don't catch on until well into middle age (if then) & by that time they have set a course & it's too late to make use of their learning. I don't mean that if they'd known earlier they could have become "rich," I mean that if they'd understood how the world works better they would have made different choices in general.
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Bullshit. Rawling was on public assistance when she started writing as a way to relieve her
bluestate10
Dec 2013
#75
What do you think they're respective opinions of Warner/NBA/Columbia Records are? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#49
And each of them was made super-rich by selling their talent to huge corporations.
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#83
Most huge corporations started by middle class people-Nike, Apple, Walmart, Microsoft etc.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#6
Phil Knight was the son of a lawyer turned publisher. Knight's father sold out
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#12
I addressed your first list of "middle class" people; Steve Jobs was the only one who could
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#33
So you SUPPORT the idea that tax cuts for the rich (job creators) WILL be good for job creation?
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#84
I didn't say anything remotely like that. Did you reply to the wrong post?
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#86
My WHOLE POINT is that 99% of our corporations were conceived by independent people
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#88
We agree on the cause and solutions to the problem. Where we disagree is your assertion that huge
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#93
Where are you getting this "tax cuts for the rich" crap? You are the only one talking about this
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#97
RW propaganda is that we have to cut taxes for the super-rich BECAUSE they are the "JOB CREATORS"!
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#98
Thanks for proving my point. A strong middle class is what creates innovators and entrepreneurs.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#110
With backing from big money. Without that, bupkis for the good ideas. And big money doesn't
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#111
Thanks for making my point again. ALL of them ultimately CAME from the middle class FIRST.
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#112
No, they didn't. Bill Gates was the great-grandson & grandson of bankers, a birth member of
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#113
What in the hell are you talking about? Now you're claiming that because maybe Gates'
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#116
OK, now Paul Allen is the founder of MS because Gates doesn't fit your storyline.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#118
Do you always need to resort to straw men? It bespeaks the lack of a strong argument.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#120
Right. It takes money to make money. There are TONS of talented, brilliant people
valerief
Dec 2013
#138
You keep asserting that but I haven't seen any evidence but your list of corporations which
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#101
Please point me to where I (or the OP) claimed that corporations were founded by other
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#109
I did however point out that your premise of average Americans starting huge corporations was wrong.
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#89
I am FOR business and corporations. They DO create jobs and a strong economy. My problem
ErikJ
Dec 2013
#92
For the last time, your claim that 99% of these huge corporations were started by people from
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#95
Edison Electric was founded from the beginning with backing from Western Union, controlled
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#122
You don't know bupkis about "ferry operators then" & dont pretend you do. Yeah, the
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#130
Straw men & personal attacks, it's all you got. It's been fun, but I'd rather argue with someone
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#134
You have a problem. Your alleged class origin (1%) is probably why you think people of your
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#136
Without capital how do you market, develop, manufacture your product? As you acknowledge in
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#14
Convince the SBA or a bank or group of investors to fund it. They dont have to be friends. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#16
"Friends" used loosely, & if they're "friends" it sure helps to get in the door. Point 2) still
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#18
No, point two doesn't stand. None of the SBA or Bank or group of investors is your friend.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#20
Bill Gates was rich at birth, due to his $1 million dollar trust fund from grandpa.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#21
That is not a defense of OPs point number two. It has thoroughly been debunked. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#22
A business plan isn't expertise. Expertise includes, for example, $ to hire good lawyers.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#61
It would seem like entertainers and athletes may not fall into either category.
hughee99
Dec 2013
#34
Is rich the only objective? People in Spain started the Mondragon Cooperative by borrowing
jtuck004
Dec 2013
#35
Like the famous "middle-class tinkerer" Mark Zuckerberg. First he stole some people's ideas, then
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#37
"'Go where the rich and the powerful are,' I'd tell him, 'and learn their ways." = so true.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#70
"In a moment of inspiration, Blakely cut the feet off panty house, and Spanx was born".
Nye Bevan
Dec 2013
#51
You are dead wrong. Some of the largest companies in the world were started up simply,
bluestate10
Dec 2013
#74
Can you name some of these companies started in garages, funded solely out of earnings from
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#77
That's how you get rich then poor then rich then poor then rich then poor...
jmowreader
Jan 2014
#142