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Adrahil

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29. I'm not sure Obama would disagree....
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

.... I mean, he's advocating a more developed post-secondary training system. I didn't hear anything that would preclude a reasonably broad-based training program.

I'd agree that in some cases, it's more important to treat basic principals. But in others, specific training is necessary. For example, learning the basic principals of 3D modelling and CNC programming is useful in a broad sense, but in a shope, we need you to know how to use Solidworks and actually run the milling machine. Also, the practical experience of running the machines in invaluable. Now, you could argue that then you only know how to use THAT software and THAT machine. But if you're training is deep enough, its relatively easy to cross-train someone to the specific software and equipment used in your specific shop.

You are correct that most companies generally will not pay for training they don;t see as directly benefiting their business model. That's not particularly a surprise, but that's why we need to make continuing education an integral part of our national education strategy. Again, I don't hear anything form Obama that would preclude that. In fact, in listening to him, I think those are the kinds of innovations he'd want to support.

"The State Of The Job Market Job Seeking Process Is Reducing Applicants To Desperate Beggars" GeoWilliam750 Feb 2014 #1
Exactly liberalmike27 Feb 2014 #15
Were supposed to be grateful for the crumbs and scraps they give us. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #2
People forced to take low paying jobs because that's all that's available The Wizard Feb 2014 #3
I dispute that Reagan's experiment "failed" nxylas Feb 2014 #11
True liberalmike27 Feb 2014 #17
We need a transition..... Adrahil Feb 2014 #4
But capitalism always pushes specialization. fasttense Feb 2014 #6
I'm kind of confused at what your suggesting.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #13
Some people actually like doing the same thing all the time Fumesucker Feb 2014 #22
Well, I question that old saying "Jack of all trades Master of none." fasttense Feb 2014 #27
I agree seabeckind Feb 2014 #37
Specialized training kills innovation seabeckind Feb 2014 #7
Afterthought... seabeckind Feb 2014 #12
But do you want people to actually DO? Adrahil Feb 2014 #14
That's exactly what I said seabeckind Feb 2014 #24
I'm not sure Obama would disagree.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #29
So why doesn't he? seabeckind Feb 2014 #31
Isn't he? I mean he just announced an effort Adrahil Feb 2014 #32
Have the company train the employee. PotatoChip Feb 2014 #33
Not a terrible idea, but.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #38
Excellent series of posts. Yavin4 Feb 2014 #35
Skilled trade Unions dotymed Feb 2014 #28
I agree. Adrahil Feb 2014 #30
The corprats and their GOP puppets LOVE that! n/t Triana Feb 2014 #5
They'd repeal the 13th amendment if they could seabeckind Feb 2014 #8
I hated the game of "Musical Chairs" as a child. canoeist52 Feb 2014 #9
This ^^ nt HomerRamone Feb 2014 #23
What if you could build your own chair? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #34
And place it where? And who would care? (See how that "can-do" spirit is a load of crap?) WinkyDink Feb 2014 #36
"And place it where?" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #44
Hucksters canoeist52 Feb 2014 #46
I thought you were speaking of capitalism, as in, needing buyers. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #47
It's not just capitalism that needs buyers. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #49
Don't quite understand what you're advocating here... canoeist52 Feb 2014 #39
Well, if you're going to stand there waiting for someone else to hand you a chair Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #45
du rec. xchrom Feb 2014 #10
They outsourced all of the good manufacturing jobs n2doc Feb 2014 #16
There's the rub. seabeckind Feb 2014 #25
K&R.... daleanime Feb 2014 #18
I refer to it as "serve or starve." ArchTeryx Feb 2014 #19
We need to make this #1 on our priority list Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #20
It may be a Reagan problem, but Democratic presidents did not help. Mass Feb 2014 #21
I Certainly Agree On That. Obama's Major Weakness Is That He Believes In Getting Along TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #26
Remember what President Clinton told the Nation while selling "Free Trade" to America? bvar22 Feb 2014 #40
I Was Really Pissed When He Pushed That. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #41
He fell for nothing dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #42
You Are Probably Right TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #43
He didn't fall for anything. Is it possible that after all this time, all the exposure, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #48
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