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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:43 PM Feb 2014

Why Philip Seymour Hoffman’s Death Is So Scary [View all]

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/02/philip_seymour_hoffman_s_drug_death_the_science_of_addiction_recovery_and.html?wpisrc=burger_bar



I cried when I heard about Philip Seymour Hoffman. The news scared me: He got sober when he was 22 and didn’t drink or use drugs for the next 23 years. During that time, he won an Academy Award, was nominated for three more, and was widely cited as the most talented actor of his generation. He also became a father to three children. Then, one day in 2012, he began popping prescription pain pills. And now he's dead.

The root causes of addiction, like those of many multifactorial diseases, are frustratingly elusive, a nebulous mixture of genetics, exposure, and environment. Addiction runs in families, but plenty of addicts come from families with no history of the disease. Availability plays a role, too—but having access to crack doesn’t make someone a crack addict. The science about recovery is also hazy: Alcoholics Anonymous, the most widely used form of treatment in the country, has no set structure or methodology, which makes it tough to evaluate its effectiveness. (There’s also the fact that its core principle—that members never publicly acknowledge their presence in the program—makes broad longitudinal studies difficult, to say the least.) In-patient treatment centers, like the one Hoffman checked himself into last May, have been accused of obfuscating their success rates.

If anything, the science on relapses is even more slippery. (We do know that relapse rates for drug and alcohol addiction are comparable to people’s inability to control other chronic illnesses, such as type 2 diabetes, asthma, and hypertension.) The challenges are as basic as agreeing on a definition for long-term sobriety. In a graphic titled “Extended Abstinence is Predictive of Sustained Recovery,” the National Institute of Drug Abuse says, “After 5 years—if you are sober, you will probably stay that way.” I unconsciously added a “forever” to the end of that sentence—but the study that chart is based on ran for eight years, a bar Hoffman cleared easily.

My first attempt at recovery came in 1991, when I was 19 years old. Almost exactly two years later, I decided to have a drink. Two years after that, I was addicted to heroin. There’s a lot we don’t know about alcoholism and drug addiction, but one thing is clear: Regardless of how much time clean you have, relapsing is always as easy as moving your hand to your mouth.
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Ugh. Yes. Lesleymo Feb 2014 #1
best wishes for you and your son ! nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #2
+1000 nt narnian60 Feb 2014 #16
I'm so sorry Lesleymo...Keep a stiff upper lip and have faith in your son. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #63
Kick.... daleanime Feb 2014 #3
All true, unfortunately Warpy Feb 2014 #4
Excellent points Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #6
My sister has done great with AA, my brother has not. johnp3907 Feb 2014 #11
They call it hitting bottom Warpy Feb 2014 #12
Yeah, late night phones calls are nerve wracking. johnp3907 Feb 2014 #23
I'm the snide cynical type Flying Squirrel Feb 2014 #32
Right, and I'm the snide, cynical type Warpy Feb 2014 #76
I have a family full of addicts loyalsister Feb 2014 #31
Did a doctor prescribe pain pills to him? abelenkpe Feb 2014 #5
They will. Most doctors know very little about addiction cally Feb 2014 #9
Many Won't, Even When They are Needed for Actual Pain AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #17
This is a problem too get the red out Feb 2014 #55
It is Actually Much Worse than That AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #67
Dear GOD get the red out Feb 2014 #72
Drug addiction is horrible. My thoughts go out to all those, and their WestSeattle2 Feb 2014 #7
Why are you so confident he made it 23 years clean? Lost_Count Feb 2014 #8
Me ? That's the article text you're reading nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #10
Fair 'nuff... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #18
That word is there Flying Squirrel Feb 2014 #33
Absolutely... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #35
Why are you so convinced he didn't? Oh yeah, you don't like that "innocent until proven guilty"? CreekDog Feb 2014 #14
I can believe it he made it 23 years steve2470 Feb 2014 #15
Very possible... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #20
ok I see your point nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #22
Apparently when he was not sober, it was quite obvious. morningfog Feb 2014 #36
WHAT A LOSS ON SO MANY LEVELS Samantha Feb 2014 #13
Last year,after 23 years in recovery,... MarianJack Feb 2014 #19
kick cally Feb 2014 #21
I'll tell you flat out hotrod0808 Feb 2014 #24
excellent post, thank you steve2470 Feb 2014 #25
Actually phil89 Feb 2014 #74
Thanks for this, steve. Cha Feb 2014 #26
my pleasure, Cha ! steve2470 Feb 2014 #27
Yes, I know all about Cha Feb 2014 #28
.... steve2470 Feb 2014 #50
I am a 46 year old alcoholic with just short of 14 years sober dsc Feb 2014 #29
What you said. n/t Flying Squirrel Feb 2014 #34
It Just Has To Be So Hard To Grapple With colsohlibgal Feb 2014 #30
kick nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #37
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"Science is slippery in all areas" ? TBF Feb 2014 #39
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Whether to call Pluto a planet or a dwarf planet is just a matter of classification muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #42
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"crazier than the average person anyway" steve2470 Feb 2014 #45
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many of us are mental health professionals, yes steve2470 Feb 2014 #48
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I suggest you go to your local community college and take a science class Blecht Feb 2014 #60
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What do you think about gravity? Fact? Or "nothing but" a theory? (nt) Heidi Feb 2014 #68
Exactly...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #41
Well, at least in all the interesting areas... MineralMan Feb 2014 #49
Were you "slippery" in math? jeff47 Feb 2014 #53
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I'm not seeking to be convinced. I'm seeking to understand. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2014 #58
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Why? jeff47 Feb 2014 #69
the number 19 kinda jumped out at me hfojvt Feb 2014 #44
Serotonin is another neurotransmitter involved nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #47
Addiction is usually a vast cluster of inter-related avoidance strategies. sibelian Feb 2014 #52
Thank you for the thoughtful post n/t TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #56
Seth Mnookin gets all the credit :) nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #59
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This won't go down well get the red out Feb 2014 #64
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Because I suffer from depression get the red out Feb 2014 #66
best wishes to you with that illness also steve2470 Feb 2014 #70
This part pipi_k Feb 2014 #71
correct ! nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #73
last bump nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #75
I used to be an alcoholic. Quit for three months. Now a social drinker. Th1onein Feb 2014 #77
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