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In reply to the discussion: It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all]The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)On the one hand we hear, time after time, that we need to treat women different and then hear from women not to treat them in a different way because it shows we think that they are weaker/etc.
Now here we have an op that is specifically written around women need us to treat them different here and folks are cheering it on and no one sees the irony in that?
We are worried about what might 'offend' some very vocal women on here and are asked to hide it for them - like closing a door for them because they can't hide it themselves or speak up for themselves on an issue.
Some man makes a thread to white knight women on DU and you are all for that whole idea suddenly?
We need to understand that someone who was the victim of a sexual assault may have a very different reaction to a sexualized photo than you or I, they may have been raped by someone who shoved pictures like that in their face. Now you may say that the picture did not cause the rape, and maybe you are right but that does not mean that the woman does not have a valid reason to be seriously bothered by the image.
Here is someone equating pics of women in bikini's (ie, how they are dressed) with rape. And on top of that says women are influenced by how a woman is dressed. None of this matches up to what I have heard feminists talking about on here. But hey, it is convenient to use and approve because the person is on your side of an issue.
If you want to go look at the swimsuit issue go ahead, but when you do so do it in a way that is respectful to others. If others tell you they don't want to see it there is absolutely no reason to show it to them, be respectful of others and recognize that women may have valid reasons for being upset that us men are really unable to fully comprehend.
Women are weaker than we are when it comes to looking at a magazine, be a good sport and cover it up when they walk by - but go ahead and look at it yourself because as a man you can handle what they cannot.
When I first saw the swimsuit issue posted here I was not upset about it at all, in fact I fully admit I found the women on the cover attractive. I did not necessarily think it belonged in GD, but I was certainly not bothered by it.
'I am a man, treat me as though I can handle things and not be offended, but let's treat women like they are weak and need our protection'
Yeah. Wow. I can't believe you endorse those ideas without a peep.