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In reply to the discussion: It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all]The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)I have no problem showing people respect on any number of things.
A man does x for women that he does not do for men - that is called here benevolent sexism. We had a slew of threads dedicated to just that here on DU. This is op is promoting doing that exact same thing - women need to be treated different than men.
The op wasn't saying 'no men or women should have to see such a cover' he called out women as needing us to protect them here in GD from seeing something he himself said he and other men didn't have a problem in seeing.
The very foundation of the op is based around treating women different than men on a site where women are saying they want to be equal and treated the same as men.
So is this something that we can switch up on when it is convenient? Don't be benevolent except when we tell you to be because it is sexist when we say it is and not when we say it isn't.
How about.....hey, magazine covers and media in general treat people like objects, both men and women, to sell magazines. They spew roles for men and women in games, movies, tv shows, and hype stereotypes from asians to gays. They lack diversity overall and focus on a small subset of the population for whatever reason and ignore people that don't fit into their ideals or experiences.
We all know not all men are wealthy, drive nice cars, are sports superstars and that not all asians excel at math and not all women look like the models we see in magazines and all gay people aren't fashionistas. But watching/reading/etc we see those things in a disproportionate manner.
Now, someone could post about any given tv show or magazine cover here that promotes those stereotypes/ideals and I could debate the merits of it and it's impact on my life or that of others. Or I could simply appreciate it as being well done. Or no comment at all either way.
What we are hearing here is that women are not capable of having that discussion because if they don't like something we need to remove it from them seeing it because even debating merits of something is, in and of itself, sexist. Women need to be protected from the entire discussion because even the sight of something upsets them and it is taken as a personal affront - men, on the other hand, are shown (in light of the op) as being able to see something and discuss it just fine.
We can look at cats, discuss sports, advertisements, silly videos, putin without a shirt on riding a bear, obama standing in a wave at the beach without a shirt on, and a slew of things over the ten years I have been here but anything and everything with a woman is against women and is only about hating them and sexism in general.
How about we respect that not everyone who likes a pic wants to whack off over it, thinks women are sub human, hates women, and that maybe, just maybe, they aren't bad people because they themselves are not as personally offended as someone else is over it.
Seems like it is ok to perpetuate stereotypes people have against males (and they sure do in one group), post anything you can negative about them, and continually disrespect fellow posters here because men are seen as stronger and can take it - but women we are supposed to treat different.