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In reply to the discussion: It is not about the swimsuit issue it is about basic respect for women [View all]BainsBane
(53,034 posts)but you. Look at the recs for the thread above. Look at the recs for these threads. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=38236 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024522226
Those were the single most recommended threads on DU over the past view days. Compare that to the handful of recs for pro-objectification threads, or defense of objectification threads, which have ranged from 5-26 recs. The math is clear. Your claim about "sole arbiter" is demonstrably false. Then there is the fact that kind of behavior is prohibited in all public spaces offline and has been for decades as part of equal opportunity law as based in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. HOF members did not create the concept of a hostile environment. It is defined under federal law. See Jensen v. Evelyth Taconite.
You say you do not treat women differently from anyone else. Let's take the doors issue. I have on more than one occasion showed you that the doors story was a faux controversy invented in an effort to belittle feminists. You have seen the initial posts that referenced doors and saw that in fact women on DU were not complaining about men holding doors open for them and that that they in fact said they appreciate it and reciprocate the kindness. Yet you continue to raise it as a canard to belittle feminists. As to your point about not treating women differently: Are you in the habit of repeating stories you know to be false, that you have been shown are false, in order to trivialize the concerns of members of this site other than feminists? Is that your standard operating procedure? If you say it is, I believe you. I don't pretend to know all of your arguments. Perhaps you simply don't respect any DUer enough to treat their concerns seriously?