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NYC_SKP

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261. The author would rather you don't make up shit about his book.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:31 AM
Mar 2014

Last edited Mon Mar 3, 2014, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)

The objects of your obsession and disdain are not the same individuals or groups that the author is identifying in making his points.

fear Skittles Mar 2014 #1
I believe it's mostly white right wing males that fear. In fact, if I remember correctly... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #2
+10000000000! Zorra Mar 2014 #105
Thank you for this amazing article! I'm passing it on. (also the funny video) Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #145
Peril From 'Patriots' billh58 Mar 2014 #139
"Not all white men are racist, right-wing gun nuts, but almost all racist, right-wing gun nuts are Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #143
Much like Fox (via The Simpsons)... JHB Mar 2014 #172
LOL! love it! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #173
Why must you broad brush all white males? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #3
Does this mean you disagree with the synopsis? Which part? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #4
I was replying to Skittles' post. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #6
And I'd say that the overpreponderance of those angry white males are right wing Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #9
Thanks for acknowledging "some" exceptions. And don't let the fact that there are ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #295
To me (a white male) the mere fact that the majority of us support the greedy, racist GOP nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #30
That's bullshit and I don't accept that. On this site Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #35
Okay, then where's your brilliant solution for "solving" racism (and sexism, and homophobia)? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #40
That just makes no sense whatever Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #45
I guess I personally consider being "stereotyped" (as a white male) less important than nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #47
It's not an either/or. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #49
True. But given that negative stereotyping doesn't really affect my everyday life, it's not nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #50
At an ER it's called triage, at my work, it's called putting out fires... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #83
I hope you realize how illogical that is Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #112
Actually, it is illogical that you've said it's illogical. I'm not 100% sure you understand Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #114
No, she meant we can't spend all our time and energy worrying about offending those who are nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #256
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #60
Pardon me, but your point was not a point at all, and you asked no question Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #82
What's the worst they can do? YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #118
The post refer to those angry, racist, white males . . . brush Mar 2014 #150
I've seen you do quite a bit of stereotyping, so I find it rather shocking Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #81
Stereotyping is scorned on this site? You've never seen posts that say Squinch Mar 2014 #92
Taking online courses in "selective reading"? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #259
It is a phenomenon, but this guy explains it quite succinctly. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #79
If you're a male why do Enthusiast Mar 2014 #54
:) nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #84
Umm, because these attacks are Kosher in GD? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #86
Feeling persecuted because you're a straight white male? CreekDog Mar 2014 #234
Oh, not in the least. Anything changed since, oh, 1968? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #237
well if something changed since 1968, i guess it's all okay then CreekDog Mar 2014 #240
"Meow-meow-meow-meow-meow-meow-white-meow?" dogknob Mar 2014 #225
Sorry to hear that. Losing a parent is awful regardless of politics. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #258
LOL! Rex Mar 2014 #288
What is that in reference to? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #289
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #59
Fear and anger are BFF's. bravenak Mar 2014 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #64
I agree from firsthand experience. Rex Mar 2014 #290
IMO, it's bigotry to lump groups of people together this way. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #5
Then you must consider every study to be bigoted and bigotry Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #7
It's not about my ideology. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #11
Not really. It's that you're using the fundies' cafeteria method of book review Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #13
Bullshit. Don't dare lump me in with fundamentalists and step the fuck off. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #57
Yes, I do. I have read your posts. Unless you change your ideology daily... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #87
Kindly back up your bullshit subject line with ONE example from the book where the author NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #88
Pretty angry there, The mask slips CreekDog Mar 2014 #163
Howdy partner! NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #166
:) nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #184
The author would rather you don't make up shit about his book. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #261
That wasn't directed at you (as you know), but you just can't stay away from me, can you? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #269
well... CreekDog Mar 2014 #239
Is there anything you can't justify? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #136
it's deep seated, not seeded. that one drives me nuts, LOL. bettyellen Mar 2014 #168
You are correct joeglow3 Mar 2014 #170
I know- I am a gardener, so the seeded thing doubly bugs me, ha ha. bettyellen Mar 2014 #171
Regarding the fundie cafeteria method... rrneck Mar 2014 #77
No, not really. In fact, fundies provide no proof except a fairy tale book.. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #85
Yes, really. rrneck Mar 2014 #90
I gave a synopsis on a book. You're asking me to type out the book for you here? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #94
Did you read it? nt rrneck Mar 2014 #95
Of course I did. Why would I be posting the book if not? Are you going to? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #96
Then explain it. nt rrneck Mar 2014 #97
Re-read what I've said through here, then read the book. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #99
So you read it but you didn't understand it. rrneck Mar 2014 #106
I think she needs to read the book. I don't think she got it the first time. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #167
Yep. Just downloded it to kindle. rrneck Mar 2014 #179
Wow! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #100
Everything revolves around studies and statistics. So what exactly are you talking about? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #101
I thought it was pretty clear. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #104
This book is not a broad-brush of men. Just the opposite (imho). PotatoChip Mar 2014 #66
Thank you for a kind and reasoned response, and especially for advice for how to learn more. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #75
You're welcome. PotatoChip Mar 2014 #137
I agree. Sadly, the OP Subject Line is a Hot Mess and Misleading.... NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #91
Given the often vastly different motivations between those groups... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #107
The word stereotyping was your input. brush Mar 2014 #156
Methinks he doth protest too much. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #187
His protest is a touch too vigorous. nt brush Mar 2014 #196
Yes. This thread is fascinating. It's the same little group of angry names. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #198
this is just silly noiretextatique Mar 2014 #175
The onus is on the OP author to speak in clear terms, and when called on it to edit in accordingly. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #178
aw, "we" just disappoint you so much, don't we? Skittles Mar 2014 #228
Now why do you want to be such a shiftan and not actually read what i wrote. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #229
LOL Skittles Mar 2014 #232
I haven't see you this angry since gun control was talked about after Newtown CreekDog Mar 2014 #236
Another CreekDog Character Attack. You'd think a host of GD would Skip Intro Mar 2014 #254
any search of your posts and "Obama" and/or "Trayvon" or "Martin" will show that CreekDog Mar 2014 #255
+100. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #253
But we are talking about angry RWing men! How does that one obvious point Rex Mar 2014 #291
I don't understand lumping father's rights and men's rights in with polly7 Mar 2014 #8
The original post explained it - in common are, angry + WHITE + MALE nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #10
Men can't be angry for legitimate reasons that women are often angry about also? polly7 Mar 2014 #14
You're making a silly argument. Read the book. It covers all your questions... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #16
No thanks. polly7 Mar 2014 #20
Of course you won't. Anything that might threaten your world view is a threat Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #21
I'll question what I please. polly7 Mar 2014 #23
"You're silly"... NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #132
Silly, small and poor, apparently. polly7 Mar 2014 #133
Oddly enough... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #38
Thanks for reviving my interest in the publication. defacto7 Mar 2014 #53
Please post where I said I have not read the book. I have finished reading the book. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #190
OK. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #193
I have completed the book. Hey, I get it that you're angry. You don't need to display it Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #197
You really should stop ascribing motives to people. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #205
I'm ascribing only what you have made amply clear in all your posts on this thread. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #208
Give me an example, then. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #215
I will - every one of your posts in this thread. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #216
There is none. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #12
It's the stuff-I-don't-like conspiracy. That's the corellation. JVS Mar 2014 #15
Not really. Read the book. This man has spent a rather lengthy time working on this Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #17
The OP subject line misrepresents the book. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #80
+1 for subject line Go Vols Mar 2014 #231
Of course men have legitimate grievances in this society. The mistake many of them make nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #31
Did you happen to note... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #46
Absolutely. I was only discussing one particular aspect. n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #48
Oh FFS. polly7 Mar 2014 #65
I'm not trying to "ramp up" anything. Just giving my opinion like you did. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #260
Are you seriously defending the Mens Rights sufrommich Mar 2014 #67
The Men's Rights Movement 'here'??? polly7 Mar 2014 #68
I meant "are you posting on DU and sufrommich Mar 2014 #69
You said 'here'. polly7 Mar 2014 #70
I think my post was pretty clear,as was yours claiming that the MRM sufrommich Mar 2014 #71
Your intent was clear, that's for sure. nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #73
You're behaving rather angry. Why? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #199
I'm not angry at all. polly7 Mar 2014 #235
Oooh, so this isn't angry on you. Wouldn't want to see angry then nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #241
Correct. nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #243
I'm very afraid. Very. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #244
Of what? polly7 Mar 2014 #245
I see you don't get sarcasm. Nite. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #246
Riiiiiiight. polly7 Mar 2014 #247
I didn't know that. Perhaps with good reason. As said, "where there's smoke there's fire." nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #192
I just got that book too. Very good stuff. Recursion Mar 2014 #18
It's very well researched and written. I'm considering giving it as gifts... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #19
I was bracing for it to be condescending, but he was very good Recursion Mar 2014 #22
Wasn't it? I was pleasantly surprised. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
Great Book. But you made up a Bigoted and Misleading OP Subject Line. And no link. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #76
I strongly urge that you read it. That will clarify the following for you: Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #93
Prove it with an example from the book. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #127
Gun rights are NOT some new phenomena. MicaelS Mar 2014 #24
The way they are behaving as if guns were prohibited, you betcha they are. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #26
Bigotry AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #25
Are you saying that I'm the author of this book? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #27
I am saying that the OP is bigoted AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #29
"There was no American Dream for anyone but white males." nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #32
Up until 40-50 years ago? AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #36
So you deny that white American males have historically enjoyed tremendous unfair advantages? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #41
No, I said the OP is bigoted AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #43
You're kidding me, right? The very fact that you are saying this is untrue.... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #194
Suuuure it does AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #248
You're pretending that white and male was not a privilege for most of the hiistory of the U.S. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #249
No, you are pretending AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #251
It seems rather like you're saying that anyone who is both male and white cannot possibly have Marr Mar 2014 #33
It's not that their frustrations are illegitimate, it's that they direct them at the wrong people nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #39
I read a really interesting article the other day - KitSileya Mar 2014 #74
Exactly. If wages were to be what it is, it wouldn't explain it or excuse it... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #195
Very well said! nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #257
Maybe you should read the book? Recursion Mar 2014 #42
How did you arrive at that? You are erroneous in at least some the following: Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #110
The Bell Curve employed "studies and statistics", too. Marr Mar 2014 #130
Um, not exactly. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #200
I know the Bell Curve was bullshit. Marr Mar 2014 #202
It was. This is not. In fact, the very studies employed by the angry anti-feminist male groups... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #209
Well, maybe I'll give it a read this week. Marr Mar 2014 #212
Good! Thanks. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #214
What solutions does Kimmell suggest? SunSeeker Mar 2014 #34
For starters, as in AA, the most important issue is acknowledging the problem... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #116
I wouldn't say it's zero, but it is small. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #120
The only solution is for awareness that there is a change, that life will not return Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #201
Oh they're aware there's a change. That's why they're angry. nt. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #219
If a post on a message board is the worst "bigotry" you've experienced this week - or this month - nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #37
I believe the Tea Party has always been right wing, even before Obama. ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #44
Read the book. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #115
If the people who read the book can't explain ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #160
+1 Go Vols Mar 2014 #230
What he seems to be skating around is one of the major reason for the anger Warpy Mar 2014 #51
No. Read the book. I keep getting people assuming they know the book without Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #113
It would help if you would answer people's questions. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #144
Thanks Warpy Mar 2014 #176
My white male privilege agrees with this post. westerebus Mar 2014 #129
I've not read this book, but... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #52
Nice analysis quaker bill Mar 2014 #63
Posts like this make DU worhtwhile. nt rrneck Mar 2014 #89
I agree Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #117
When you read the book, you'll find how well researched the thing is, and the incredible number of Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #108
The conclusions of this research seem focused towards one group of people davidn3600 Mar 2014 #224
I think there is more nuance in this short response My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #141
This illustrates it nicely.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #55
Indeed. The loss of the long-standing white male entitlement has given birth to rightwingerism... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #103
Trash, another broad brush Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #56
Downward mobility is fucking everyone over, and we need to do something about that eridani Mar 2014 #58
I totally agree. Thanks! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #102
Alienation alone doesn't turn people into mass murderers. My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #62
It's not "alienation" per se. It's a loss of white male privilege and entitlement present since Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #98
Recent immigrants, from which huge swaths of the country are comprised, My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #123
The American caste system is changing and white right wing males are angry Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #152
That's not really in dispute My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #162
The only ones exclusing themselves from society, are the angry white males Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #183
I read some of the reviews My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #188
The solution is awareness of what these angry groups are doing, why they're doing it, and what Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #203
Sarah, I think a lot of it may be the loss of jobs by so many white working class men.. whathehell Mar 2014 #140
I think it's definitely part of it. A lot of it has to do with women, blacks, gay rights, and the Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #147
And they're all living in my community. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #72
How lucky! Well, to be honest, I think I must've gotten quite a few of "yours" Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #78
We are pawns in a greater game and always have been LittleBlue Mar 2014 #109
YES!!! Thank you. That's why I encourage everyone to read this book... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #111
Which is why 62% of white men voted for Romney.... YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #119
god, that is a depressing stat. we need to make inroads with these people and jobs would do it... bettyellen Mar 2014 #165
Which is one huge reason the Rs have opposed any action to create decent jobs. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #282
True, god forbid we dig the USA out of the hole they created. bettyellen Mar 2014 #283
Especially when they have a huge percentage of Americans believing that it was the Dems Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #284
yep, just like Christie did with the GWB- fuck up services and blame a Dem... bettyellen Mar 2014 #285
Gotta hand it to them, they know what works and they aren't afraid to use it. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #286
I saw the same thing locally- the campaign manager for a mayoral candidate called the opponent a bettyellen Mar 2014 #287
That is an example of the sort of thing that causes me to lose faith in humanity. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #293
That mayoral candidate tried to hire me away (I was volunteering for the other guy) and offered me bettyellen Mar 2014 #294
I was going to ask some questions about this book Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #121
It's vast and I'm here to introduce the book, not to teach you a class on it. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #126
Just read the book Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #161
The right to own firearms is a Civil Right enshrined in the Constitution (Bill of Rights). NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #122
I'm not discussing gun rights. This book discusses the mad popularity of gun rights now Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #124
No, actually, it doesn't. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #135
He does go to a gun show and interview the dude manning the KKK booth. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #151
You have not read it, but are telling others what the book is or is not about. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #204
Understand. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #142
Funny how most of the teabag facebook postings I see itsrobert Mar 2014 #125
You checked their gender? lol Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #131
Nice post. YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #134
Koch brothers money. CanonRay Mar 2014 #128
Amen. Koch ga$$$$oline fuels the angry white male groups and propaganda Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #159
Gun nuts and MRA's are afraid Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #138
Oh yes. Terrified. Yes, get the book at the library, or buy it. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #158
It's also an excellent explanation of what's holding us back as a country. nt MrScorpio Mar 2014 #146
Exactly! It's the 1st book that has explained it so well. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #157
The people pushing back on this are the people whose ears are burning. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #148
Yes, did you notice? I have to go back over the posts and take note of who said what Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #154
Beg your pardon? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #164
Actually, what I have said is modest and mild compared to what the book touches on Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #206
You're like a dog with a bone. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #211
I'm just someone who won't get pushed around by anyone. You don't like it, don't like it. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #213
... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #217
You're in an anger group, or you're silly, or it's your ideocracy. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #221
I'm astounded that you tried to reach out to her... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #222
looks interesting, thanks. we need more men voting Dem instead of against their best interests. bettyellen Mar 2014 #149
Yes we do. Thank God for the awesome lib men, of every color, religion, etc. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #153
Angry people scare me shenmue Mar 2014 #155
I wouldn't lump fathers' rights supporters in there TransitJohn Mar 2014 #169
Are you saying the writer of the book did a bad thing? Then please read the book. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #182
No, I'm saying TransitJohn Mar 2014 #265
The book itself sets out to prove that mens' rights, fathers' rights, teabag, right wing extremist Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #268
Fathers' rights groups aren't anger groups, they're parents' rights groups TransitJohn Mar 2014 #272
I wouldn't say that. I'd say that black fathers' groups are parent relationship improvement groups Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #273
Then you'd be wrong TransitJohn Mar 2014 #274
So are you saying men's rights and fathers' rights groups are not really anti-feminist? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #275
Keep lumping and stereotyping TransitJohn Mar 2014 #276
I asked a question which only required a yes or no response. I got no answer. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #277
Please read the book and discover what a horrible person you are. Throd Mar 2014 #278
The reply above yours has got to be the most racist statement I've ever seen on this board. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #279
I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole TransitJohn Mar 2014 #281
I've heard of this book. Seems pretty good to me. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #174
Thanks! I believe one person has a problem with the OP title... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #181
I've conceded that there is a language barrier here, and I apologize. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #177
Sorry. The subject line explains the book, and it cannot be changed. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #180
I'll say this, and you can correct me if I'm wrong. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #186
Here, I'm going to suggest the better subject line that I think you'll agree is not offensive: NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #189
That's not what he discusses in the book. There were Reagan Democrats, and there are currently Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #207
I was hoping for examples of "aggrieved entitlement"... Zenlitened Mar 2014 #185
That's interesting. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #191
+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #218
After watching the reaction of those in anger groups, I wonder... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #210
"watching the reaction of those in anger groups, I wonder..." I want you to read a book: NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #220
Those look useful. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #223
Indeed, they are. But the best tool from the author, however, isn't provided free of charge. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #226
The more I read from the book the more I see that YOU are the problem. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #227
:) Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #238
Then you have the wrong book, clearly. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #242
Educate this DUer on how you know their profession better than they joeglow3 Mar 2014 #250
I'm guessing it's because they scored low on South Park's TMI index: Initech Mar 2014 #233
Including "fathers rights" in this discussion is problematic ecstatic Mar 2014 #252
The book includes fathers' rights as one of the offshoots of the anti-woman themes of angry white Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #263
On wages and downward mobility- Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #262
Yes, it makes it all come full circle. You're right Right wing fuel is at the bottom of the Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #264
No ruling class goes without a fight. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #266
So true. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #267
Regarding "fathers' rights" redqueen Mar 2014 #270
Thank you, redqueen. Super informative article. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #271
Male menopause and an economy so mean... Orsino Mar 2014 #280
Interesting observation - some here seem to miss your title in the OP! Rex Mar 2014 #292
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