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proverbialwisdom

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Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:46 AM
Mar 2014
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ddroitsch/final_environmental_review_for.html

NRDC: Danielle Droitsch’s Blog

Final environmental review for Keystone XL tar sands pipeline acknowledges significant climate impact and sets stage for rejection
Posted January 31, 2014


The State Department has released its final environmental review acknowledging for the first time Keystone XL could accelerate climate change, adding the equivalent of 5.7 million new cars to the road. There is already compelling evidence that approval of Keystone XL would expand the tar sands industry and cause unacceptable climate impacts. This is a significant change to previous State Department analyses which have failed to acknowledge the role of the pipeline to facilitate tar sands expansion. When considering these climate impacts with the overwhelming evidence that the pipeline would create few jobs, bring tar sands to the Gulf for refining and export, and put communities and fresh water at risk, there is no other choice than to reject the pipeline. This dirty energy project fails the national interest test. In his recent State of the Union address this week, President Obama noted the enormous opportunity the country has to develop clean energy. Serving our national interest means embracing clean and renewable energy, reducing oil demand, and facilitating cleaner transportation. This means rejecting Keystone XL.

The pipeline will have a significant climate impact

In this final environmental review, the State Department concedes the pipeline will enable the expansion of tar sands production in a scenario assuming lower oil prices and little or no growth in pipelines. In this scenario, the State Department has now conceded that the possible climate impact of the pipeline could be upwards of 27.4 MMTCO2e annually which is equivalent to the tailpipe emissions from 5.7 million passenger vehicles. While the State Department downplays the likelihood of this scenario, they clearly acknowledge the project could pose a significant climate impact. The International Energy Agency (IEA), futures markets, and the World Bank are all projecting lower global oil prices over the coming years. According to the environmental review, “[t]he total direct and indirect emissions associated with the proposed Project would contribute to cumulative global GHG emissions.”

Already, there is plenty of recent evidence from the investors, the Canadian government, and the tar sands industry acknowledging that the pipeline is critical to expansion. The International Energy Agency has confirmed the close connection between large pipelines including Keystone XL, and the tar sands industry’s expansion plans. Investment banks like the Royal Bank of Canada and Goldman Sachs have acknowledged the role of Keystone XL in driving tar sands expansion. In fact, we know that rail is not a feasible alternative to replace the capacity of the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. In short, Goldman Sachs finds that without Keystone XL, lower tar sands prices and higher transport costs will result in the cancelation or deferment of tar sands expansion projects. We know that rail won’t be a replacement for moving tar sands oil.

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300 won't make anyone do anything. aquart Mar 2014 #1
I thought there were 40,000 protestors LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #9
You can add a couple of zeros. freedom fighter jh Mar 2014 #67
Arrested for protesting newfie11 Mar 2014 #2
Nope. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #10
They weren't arrested for protesting. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #26
Ask those of us who protested to sit at a lunch counter and were arrested for it. It's what we kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #52
But this wasn't that, was it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author newfie11 Mar 2014 #93
I believe kelliekat was agreeing with you, JoePhilly. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #105
+ 1 russspeakeasy Mar 2014 #129
Really????? elzenmahn Mar 2014 #132
That's been going on for awhile. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #72
I know that seems to be what happens today newfie11 Mar 2014 #92
I wasn't alive back in the 60s ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #98
there's nothing new in that. U.S. arrests peaceful demonstrators since the beginning 2banon Mar 2014 #120
It wasn't really for protesting, Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #122
what Bernardo is trying to say is... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #128
Doubtless, Obama was busy searching for his comfortable shoes MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #3
Thanks for reviving that promise Manny Plucketeer Mar 2014 #82
+1000000 Phlem Mar 2014 #112
The article says their goal was to get arrested. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #4
Yes. Do you have a point? Scuba Mar 2014 #5
That by arresting them, Obama helped JoePhilly Mar 2014 #6
If he wanted to help them, and us, he could nix the pipeline. That's why we elected him. Scuba Mar 2014 #11
They were able to protest and march as long as they wanted. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #27
Nor did he order the police to not arrest these peaceful protesters. Scuba Mar 2014 #30
Sure, because that was the most important thing for him to be doing yesterday. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #34
He should have ordered the police BBR Esq Mar 2014 #55
Has anyone who opposes this eisastrous pipeline been invited to participate in discussions sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #57
But that isn't what your OP is about. Very dishonest. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #113
The real issue is that Obama isn't saying no the the KXL pipeline. cui bono Mar 2014 #121
his point is he never fails to apologize for the establishment. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #61
Snort. So true. Scuba Mar 2014 #74
Their goal is to stop Keystone XL dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #7
except I'm not at all convinced it's the right fight. Adrahil Mar 2014 #8
It is one battle in the only fight that ultimately matters dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #14
Well, I certainly agree with your goal Adrahil Mar 2014 #19
So you think it's a good idea? dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #25
No, I don't. Adrahil Mar 2014 #29
We don't have limited political capital when it comes to protesting. obxhead Mar 2014 #54
yeah, ya do, if you expect to make a difference policy-wise. Adrahil Mar 2014 #56
But it might have been an error to focus mainly on Keystone XL over the past few years Chathamization Mar 2014 #32
I am not aware of any Keystone XL focus dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #78
Whether it should be part of a strategy and whether it should be the main focus are two different Chathamization Mar 2014 #90
I don't know... dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #100
A lot of the effective groups also seem to be local Chathamization Mar 2014 #109
This toxic material doesn't have to be transported across the heart of the US by pipe or rail. Scuba Mar 2014 #15
How much you wanna bet it happens? Adrahil Mar 2014 #20
So we should all just shut the fuck up? Scuba Mar 2014 #21
Nope, we should spend capital (political and actual) on efforts that will actually make a difference Adrahil Mar 2014 #24
Making a very strong public stand can also make a difference dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #28
Go for it if that's what floats your boat. Adrahil Mar 2014 #33
That's funny, that's what I thought of your posting against resisting Keystone XL dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #63
+1,000 Scuba Mar 2014 #35
So we should just shut the fuck up. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #65
Much of the reading I've done indicates that much of the oil Arkansas Granny Mar 2014 #18
The better, right fight would be an all out goal of cleaner energy seveneyes Mar 2014 #44
It is the pipeline across our country that is the problem. RC Mar 2014 #46
You know that tar sands oil is being transported right now, right? Adrahil Mar 2014 #59
I know that. But the pipeline will increase the amount of tar extract being transported. RC Mar 2014 #79
Read here. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #58
Thanks. I'll look into it. NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #60
The idea is to stop tarsands mining, refining, and use. freedom fighter jh Mar 2014 #71
Don't expect answers to those questions treestar Mar 2014 #77
+infinity! Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #13
Their goal yesterday was to get arrested to draw attention to the issue. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #37
How do you suggest we make him do it? dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #50
It's the 40 Thousand that were ignored that gets me n2doc Mar 2014 #12
Yep, 40,000 protesters in DC got no mention on the Urinal/Sentinel website today. They did .... Scuba Mar 2014 #17
Scuba, wow! Now they are defending the XL pipeline. Yes, 40,000 was the estimate. madfloridian Mar 2014 #16
There is no logical defense of keystone XL. blackspade Mar 2014 #22
I've seen all sorts of amazing things on DU lately Scootaloo Mar 2014 #68
Indeed blackspade Mar 2014 #84
Don't know but this is not the DU I'm used to newfie11 Mar 2014 #95
It's been going on for some time. woo me with science Mar 2014 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Mar 2014 #116
. Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #135
Recommend! KoKo Mar 2014 #138
Recommend! KoKo Mar 2014 #139
! Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #136
The first president to say that was FDR - I am curious to know how he treated protesters and if they jwirr Mar 2014 #23
These folks were not arrested for protesting. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #31
Okay - that no arrest no press has been in action for decades if not more. jwirr Mar 2014 #36
Which makes the OP's screaching about the President dishonest. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #38
"Screeching". For next time someone says something you don't like. Scuba Mar 2014 #40
Its not that I don't like what you said, its that what you said is false. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #43
Which part is false? That he said "make me do it"? That they were arrested? Scuba Mar 2014 #45
Since you need hand holding to understand these concepts... Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2014 #51
"President has ZERO obligation to stop them from being arrested" after he said "make me do it"? Scuba Mar 2014 #53
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #87
Yes, please continue. Scuba Mar 2014 #88
LOL!! JoePhilly Mar 2014 #64
Thank you. treestar Mar 2014 #75
FDR and Truman both said slogan like things treestar Mar 2014 #80
I never did understand that phrase. This may not be the best analogy, but truth2power Mar 2014 #39
+1 Marr Mar 2014 #70
+2 840high Mar 2014 #123
It appears you didn't even READ your own link. It is NOT what you claim. Whisp Mar 2014 #41
I read the link. Did you read the thread? Scuba Mar 2014 #42
Yes, and in the thread, you are taken to task for misrepresenting the gravamen of the arrests. msanthrope Mar 2014 #49
Do you suppose that's what he said to his big donors as well? n/t factsarenotfair Mar 2014 #47
HAH!They say subsidize/deregulate/bail us out;O says how much. Divernan Mar 2014 #69
His small donors were more numerous and from them he collected more money treestar Mar 2014 #81
I was a small donor myself but not in the "face time" category. factsarenotfair Mar 2014 #85
The elected politician cannot just do the bidding of the large donors. treestar Mar 2014 #102
Yes. And they replied, "We already did." WinkyDink Mar 2014 #83
"Hey! Obama! We don't want no pipeline drama!' was the protest cry. Divernan Mar 2014 #48
There would be no protests and no arrests JEB Mar 2014 #66
yeah, and shame on him. That's how it works. librechik Mar 2014 #73
that was the core of the Civi Rights movement grasswire Mar 2014 #89
The make me do it line is dumb treestar Mar 2014 #76
Do you think he has the power to expose the truth? factsarenotfair Mar 2014 #86
As long as there is a First Amendment treestar Mar 2014 #101
Sorry--I didn't mean to silence but to expose the misinformation, which is all they have. factsarenotfair Mar 2014 #103
Obviously, they were trying to steal his "comfortable walking shoes". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #91
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #96
"Make me do it" was a taunt mixed with a bit of entrapment FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #94
Many problems with the line "make me do it" NCTraveler Mar 2014 #97
In my feeble mind, it's one of the worst things a President could say. Scuba Mar 2014 #99
Here's an honest OP on the arrest of the protesters. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #104
What's dishonest about Scuba's OP? polichick Mar 2014 #106
"Make me do it" was always ridiculous. Voters need to demand that elected officials serve them... polichick Mar 2014 #107
In one day, the US arrested almost half as many protesters as Venezuela has in over three Zorra Mar 2014 #108
more like Maduro is an incompetent, bungling commie leftist dictator. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #114
But apparently, far more unwilling to jail his own people for protesting than Obama is. Zorra Mar 2014 #118
It wasn't a challenge or a suggestion that he would listen. bvar22 Mar 2014 #110
Did he also make you post dishonest OP's? great white snark Mar 2014 #111
To the Greatest Page. woo me with science Mar 2014 #117
Soes President Obama understand that a lot of thoes protestors are Democrats who could be out JDPriestly Mar 2014 #119
''I never did get that "make me do it" line.'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #124
Chess Move™ eom TransitJohn Mar 2014 #125
People seem really upset that they have to work for and fight for things rather bluegreen Mar 2014 #126
Nearly 1,000 arrested at Moral Monday protests. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #130
Who's "we," and how do we know?!?! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #127
Exactly daybranch Mar 2014 #131
be careful Skittles Mar 2014 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author MindMover Mar 2014 #134
Suggest you ignore the trolling remark. Your post is heartfelt and accurate. Thanks. Scuba Mar 2014 #137
and I suggest you get your facts straight before posting inflammatory crap ... MindMover Mar 2014 #140
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #141
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #142
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