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red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:58 PM Mar 2014

Can Obamacare Be Changed To Make It a Single-Payer Health Plan? [View all]

Is it possible to change the Affordable Care Act into Universal Health Care?
Wouldn't Congressional Republicans block any such attempt to change the ACA?
The answer is... "Of course they would!"
But, if it ever got to that point...if President Obama and Congressional Democrats pushed for such changes, and the Republicans then blocked it, wouldn't the Democrats running for House and Senate seats in November be able to say:

"See,we tried to change Obamacare in a bi-partisan way to make it a better health care plan; but the Republicans refused to go along with us.
We tried to give the American people the kind of universal health care that nearly all the Western countries already have; but the Republicans said 'No'
We are for the American people.
The Republicans are for the big insurance companies."

Sanders Subcommittee Hearing-Access and Cost:What the US Health Care System Can Learn

Single-Payer Advocates: It Hurts To Say I Told You So
"We may have an 'I-told-you-so' moment, but it's hard to get any pleasure out of it knowing how many people are actually going to get hurt," said Stephanie Woolhandler, a New York-based doctor who co-founded Physicians for a National Health Program, a group that pushes for universal health care..."You had a bad system, and you're putting a patch on it using the same flawed insurance companies that got us here in the first place," she said.

Physicians for a National Health Program:

Poll: 64% of Americans Say Obamacare Should Remain Law
"Bloomberg News found that a combined 64% of Americans said they support keeping the law in place..That includes 51% who said it should be kept, but may need some small changes."

(Note that 51 percent said that the law "may need some small changes"...I wonder how many would have said that Obamacare should be changed to make it a single-payer health plan, if that had been an option for them to choose?)

13 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Make the necessary changes to Obamacare to make it a single-payer health plan.
12 (92%)
Leave Obamacare alone....Don't change it at all.
0 (0%)
Make only small changes to Obamacare, so as not to upset the GOP or the insurance companies.
0 (0%)
Repeal Obamacare.
1 (8%)
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I'd love single payer. Not entirely sure how it can be built on Obamacare, though. And I'm not GreenPartyVoter Mar 2014 #1
Don't the states have the option to go to single-payer after 2017? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #2
You build it on Obamacare in the blue states. jeff47 Mar 2014 #18
Say "Medicare-for-all", rather than "Single Payer". jazzimov Mar 2014 #3
I love this post. And Democratic candidates need to be campaigning on it. Vigorously. Loudly Mar 2014 #4
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #6
Makes sense to me. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #5
Where did people get the idea that single payer is the only model that works? Recursion Mar 2014 #7
It's the most cost effective model. joshcryer Mar 2014 #8
Is it? I think the NHS model does better, doesn't it? Recursion Mar 2014 #9
What makes NHS not single payer? joshcryer Mar 2014 #11
I suppose strictly you could say it is, but that usually means Recursion Mar 2014 #13
It does look like Blair made it so you can opt out. joshcryer Mar 2014 #14
The more interesting part to me of ACA is the FQHC model Recursion Mar 2014 #16
Oh yeah... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #19
"The UK health care system, National Health Servise, (NHS).. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #10
You seem to be confusing "universal health care" with "single payer". They're two different things Recursion Mar 2014 #12
Thanks, I didn't know that. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #15
I hope the FQHC part of ACA really gets going Recursion Mar 2014 #17
The entire POINT of Obamacare is to funnel trillions into the hands of insurance companies... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #20
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