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In reply to the discussion: lets have a civil factual debate aboug E-Cigs [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:26 AM - Edit history (3)
If you were a confirmed, inveterate pack-nd-a-half-a-day or so smoker, try 36 mg /ml nicotine. Get the cigs away from you (I forgot about mine, they were laying out on a table but I didn't think to reach for them for several days after I discovered the secret of enough nicotine in the first place). Find a vaper shop that is committed to getting smokers off of tobacco cigs - those for whom it is a mission. They will help.
You will very likely find yourself cutting down on the nicotine in a month or so, much easier than cigs since you still have the vapor.
I wanted small, unobtrusive, so I got a black Ego-c, and then used the battery from that on a Kanger Mini Pro Tank II - works out of the box. I swap them back and forth. I can rebuild the wick in the Kanger, but they are only a few dollars every 2 or 3 weeks for the ego. Nearly covered by my hand.
Get 2, and at least 4-6 batteries. (I have 3 now). You can do this for less than $50 a pipe. You will need some atomizers, alcohol and cotton swabs for frequent cleaning. Remember - you need for this to work 24x7 without fail, and the only way you can do that until you learn a bit is to have two, so one can be out of commission for a few days while you order the stuff you forgot. Which is why I got 3.
Get a flavor of liquid you LIKE. My first was a tobacco-like flavor with mango, sweet orange, root beer, and a Red Bull flavor. When you need a cig, go suck on it. It will kill your craving - get away from others, get away from smokers. Learn to be comfortable with it - it's clumsy at first.
Put a lanyard on the vaping pipe (it's not an e-cig anymore - it's a substitute). Keep it around. Get a case (1/2" pvc cut to length, two caps ($1.75) holds mine in my pocket, don't have to worry about breaking. Or you can buy the huge $6 one off ebay.
Good info here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/
Trained on these, I suspect any state that wanted to have an impact on smokers could buy these with all the stuff for less tha n$100 a person and distribute it to people who smoke, and drop the smoking rate in their state by 50%.
Given that we will spend tens of millions each year in perpetuity on these bullshit telephone programs and pills that make you want to clean your guns and patches and gum, all of which combine to give us success rates, after all the hooplah, in the single digits, and spending on the health care related to cigarettes is likely in the billions, I am not sure a health department that is not at least investigating buying all these for all the smokers in their state is doing its job.
I haven't found much in the way of competent authority who will commit to the mix of vegetable glycerin, distilled water, propylene glycol (like your dr gives you to drink b4 a colonoscopy), some varied kinds of alchohol-based perfumes, and perhaps nicotine, being anything but likely to be much safer than burning tobacco and inhaling that and the tars and chemicals that are primarily linked to cancer.
Oh, yeah, I'm in favor of them.
On edit - Also, not all setups use the USB port in your computer to charge the batts very well. Often times get better results with the adapter and wall socket. I think it provides more amps to the charge. Batteries certainly act differently from the wall socket.