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In reply to the discussion: Duty to retreat vs stand your ground and castle laws: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater [View all]ellisonz
(27,711 posts)20. I'll take that as concession. n/t
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Duty to retreat vs stand your ground and castle laws: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater [View all]
TPaine7
Mar 2012
OP
That's not true. Most confrontations will not go to "kill or be killed" without graduation.
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#14
I don't think that the Stand your ground law prevents a jury from determining
JDPriestly
Mar 2012
#12
The essential issue in self-defense as I understand it (and I was not a specialist in
JDPriestly
Mar 2012
#61
'Reasonableness' gets evaluated all the way up the legal ladder.. not all go to a jury.
X_Digger
Mar 2012
#63
"These states uphold castle doctrine in general, ... but... may enforce a duty to retreat"
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#24
Do you also believe that the idea of innocent people in prison in cases totally unrelated to this
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#38
The case was from before the 2005 change, so comparing 2005 and 2011 is irrelevant. n/t
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#75
I don't see why everyone who agrees with gun rights is AUTOMATICALLY an NRA member
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#37
I am not a member, nor have I ever given them a penny, though I almost contributed after Katrina.
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#39
I think I'll stand my ground and won't allow your made up bullshit and histrionics to make me leave.
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#45
I think Florida's SYG law and even their Castle Law need revision. There also needs to be education
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#51
The duty to retreat is a duty to obey a criminal who orders you to flee coupled with a threat
TPaine7
Apr 2012
#90
The bottom line is that he can dismiss you from any public space, simply by offering you violence.
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#48
Wow! Just Wow! Killing an unarmed teen with no legal ramifications is the "bathwater"?
Major Nikon
Mar 2012
#31
Perhaps you can read, but I'm seriously doubting your ability to comprehend
Major Nikon
Mar 2012
#66
I skimmed over your post and failed to find anything that addresses the examples I gave
Major Nikon
Apr 2012
#95
The false assumption is that without the shoot first law, people go to jail for defending themselves
Major Nikon
Mar 2012
#72
Thanks for your thoughtul response. I agree that the law needs change and that all violent deaths
TPaine7
Mar 2012
#59
Actually I started to say "arrested" but decided that in all cases that is not justified
csziggy
Mar 2012
#65