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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Cha
(298,016 posts)455. It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a
more cognizant rant if he were actually throwing his ugly insults at whomever was actually causing the problems with his wife's meds.
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Aubagio. I was in the experimental trial for several years and then the FDA approved it
Mojorabbit
Mar 2014
#220
While drugs are too high, it's not like you do a google search and make it in the kitchen.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#579
Then, why don't a couple of unemployed PhDs down the street make them and sell at half the price.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#658
Definitely better before 2006- no drug coverage, elderly doing without, cutting pills in thirds, etc
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#656
"fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an "excellent rant"?
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#207
If you did, it makes me sad to see 2 long term duers like you and he think that is ok
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#235
I wish we'd gotten single payer, but can not understand calling him that. Or putting all the blame
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#240
Look. Obama was so pathetic on this issue that even Jon Stewart called him out.
truedelphi
Mar 2014
#369
So you agree President Obama is a "piece of shit used-car salesman" deserving "fuck you" on DU?
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#370
My apologies, I edited to remove the unneeded snark. Yes, there are a hell of a lot of problems,
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#382
No, the insurance companies are not legalized gambling, they're mass murderers for profit.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#517
Sorry for your situation and sorry that you feel that way about the President. But the blame goes
kelliekat44
Mar 2014
#532
It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a
Cha
Mar 2014
#455
True enough, but I think he could have gotten the same without screaming
ConservativeDemocrat
Mar 2014
#633
While your advice is good advice, considering the system we have, it is truly sad that sick people
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#213
Thank you! I support the free Market also, but not when it is abused, and imo, HC should
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#449
insurance companies will when forced cover what is in the contract
questionseverything
Mar 2014
#250
On three occasions my insurer has denied coverage for a drug for a family member.
Nye Bevan
Mar 2014
#253
My policies (and I believe most policies) have "non-formulary exception" provisions
Nye Bevan
Mar 2014
#273
Yeah, they are (deliberately, I think) vague about coverage prior to you taking out the policy.
Nye Bevan
Mar 2014
#344
I have won plenty of appeals for things which were not in the language of the contract.
Ms. Toad
Mar 2014
#624
agree about going to state insurance agency---also go to your Congresscritters
wordpix
Mar 2014
#557
Yes, the main thing to bear in mind is that there is no premium subsidy with an off-exchange plan.
Nye Bevan
Mar 2014
#349
I repeat: I refuse to die until I have first danced on the mass grave of for profit health
Zorra
Mar 2014
#5
More people need to be made aware that this can happen! This needs to go viral, because
loudsue
Mar 2014
#7
You didnt check to see if an ongoing medication was covered before you signed up?
Egnever
Mar 2014
#9
I can't explain it to you. It's how all drug coverage insurance works. Not all drugs
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2014
#607
You are dead wrong. There may be alternative medications that work as well.
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#119
"If a patient insists on a particular medication when other therapies will work" and there is the
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#352
Not sure what any of that has to do with checking the formulary before you purchase a plan
Egnever
Mar 2014
#156
As I understand it, no insurance company is required to pay for a medication that hasn't been proven
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2014
#224
Yeah, "the insurance company".. maybe pitt should have been "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck"
Cha
Mar 2014
#180
stating somebody was a fool for not reviewing the formulary before signing up
magical thyme
Mar 2014
#318
There is not enough information posted on the providers' websites to garner this information.
MoonchildCA
Mar 2014
#462
Indeed. He's giving up on a new plan because some insurance adjuster advised him not to bother
itsrobert
Mar 2014
#17
The accusation does sound somewhat suspicious and was delivered emotionally.
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#130
Someone's sort of stuck on permanent anger at this point. No, we don't have all the facts.
Hekate
Mar 2014
#233
"he signed up for a lifetime of reading the fine print and doing the research"
wickerwoman
Mar 2014
#477
Lucky you. But in the OP's case, he is a highly articulate professional writer, activist, & teacher
Hekate
Mar 2014
#483
Appealing the decision doesn't guarantee coverage, just a review, and it can still be denied...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2014
#42
I'm assuming what the OP meant by a 3 month fight is that they already...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2014
#66
I don't blame the President personally, this system predates him by about 40 years...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2014
#84
Later today I'm sending the Koch brothers a letter appealing their decision
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2014
#510
Yeh, I'm so sure Obama gets a jolly laugh out of peope not getting their medication
Whisp
Mar 2014
#131
A better question would be why aren't the formularies standard from one policy to the next.
Lars39
Mar 2014
#86
Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you.
one_voice
Mar 2014
#22
"explain that away, apologist"? WTF. It would seem someone with your ability to use words would
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#32
The OP's behavior was fucking insulting and wrong. I happen to live in the same state
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#146
Thank you for a boots on the ground assessment. I think we'd all like more details to see if there
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#373
Manny, are you saying only pre-existing conditions that have never been exposed to insurance.....
marble falls
Mar 2014
#523
Seriously, wtf. If that is not alerted on or hidden, is calling Pres Obama that is ok per
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#29
Well, maybe if Obama had TOLD the insurance companies what to do instead of
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2014
#83
Canada has formularies. The UK has formularies. Single payer doesn't work without them.
Recursion
Mar 2014
#445
EXACTLY!!! I related that fact in an earlier post. My sense is that the OP is
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#159
Most importantly Presidents execute the laws and enforce them. Thats why its called the executive ..
marble falls
Mar 2014
#527
That is a bullshit claim. Congress passed the ACA, the President is doing his best to
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#166
Maybe you shouldn't have left MA for "tax free NH?" It's nice up there but you get what you pay
MADem
Mar 2014
#350
Hopefully that post and this overall thread will result in some admin attention
Number23
Mar 2014
#465
Well, the pitt fans weren't on this jury.. and he wouldn't know "truth" if it gobsmacked him
Cha
Mar 2014
#378
I agree. In the past calling the President a "POS" would have been a clear violation. One thing
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#176
I'm not Raging at the President for something that isn't his fault. Throwing all kinds of idiotic
Cha
Mar 2014
#218
That should be the first course of actions. In fact if a physician says the patient absolutely
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#181
Same here. Every single year I print out my original letter detailing what the generic does to me...
Hekate
Mar 2014
#247
I'd feel angry too. But was she on this med before, and are there any alternatives?
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#44
I think there is a way with this one. At least I hope. Sorry they are going through this.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#105
I suspect that cheaper alternatives were offered and rejected. Some alternatives,
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#175
If the DOCTOR agrees that the drug is needed, the insurance companies will go with the doctor.
MADem
Mar 2014
#361
I agree, something is missing. I'm not sure insurance companies always go with docs, especially
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#363
I get it. Most folks here would really get po'd if faced with formularies in Canada, England, etc.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#387
Single Payer isn't going to happen until republicans are either proven completely
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#177
Well he did this one "piece of shit used car salesman" Hidden and will wouldn't know "the truth" if
Cha
Mar 2014
#304
But you said in a post above that NH has ten options, have you tried the other nine?
sheshe2
Mar 2014
#100
Since health-care costs can't be deducted from taxes unless you run up an enormous bill,
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#184
aca is not about health care, it is about health insurance companies health care may or may not be
msongs
Mar 2014
#60
I you feel there are no alternatives, or your physician's authorization cannot remedy it, then start
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#185
Your agent falsely told you a non-exchange insurer may deny someone for preexisting conditions.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#435
Just use the prescription that the U.S. doctor wrote, and have it filled by a reliable pharmacy in
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#190
One argument that has been used is that we are subsidizing the other countries costs for the drugs,
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#626
I didn't take you seriously, though I did repost the same response, just in case
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#675
The OP lives in New Hampshire. Until LePage took over in Maine, NH was the
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#202
The plan in MA is very good. I've got friends and family with complex medical issues and they
MADem
Mar 2014
#365
If there is any research or other assitance any of us could provide, please ask no matter
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#95
You are right, my mistake, he should call his delegation from Massachusetts.
nadinbrzezinski
Mar 2014
#179
true.. but no "mainstream" candidate for President in the last 30 years would dare disobey
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2014
#104
It's simply not true that nobody read the health care bill before it was passed.
cheapdate
Mar 2014
#423
The most basic...letting a doctor decide which medicine, not an insurance company
seveneyes
Mar 2014
#504
It isn't what was promised, we were lied to, and people are suffering for it.
Skip Intro
Mar 2014
#111
Good news! No matter how bad they fuck you, thanks to Obama you still have to buy it. nt
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#112
I don't need expensive medication, but sometimes I get rejected for a maintenance medication
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#113
While you are at it you should fuck the 5,000,000 who now have insurance & didn't before.
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2014
#116
Of course, but too many scared Dem congresspeople would have voted it down.
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2014
#160
I get it. Insurance is not health care. But they will get more care than they got before.
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2014
#499
Just what mankind needs, more hate. That will sure come in handy in obtaining pills for Mrs.Pitt.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#192
ANY medication that a physician prescribes should be covered by health insurance
Agony
Mar 2014
#149
Not to call the President "a piece of shit" though. He's got anger issues — and with the President
brush
Mar 2014
#489
IMO he should regret it. You can express anger issues without being digustingly disrespectful
brush
Mar 2014
#588
The language may be over the top but the opinions aren't. I look forward to his posts.
marble falls
Mar 2014
#535
I thought "covers preexisting conditions" meant that you would be able to get affordable insurance
tarheelsunc
Mar 2014
#157
find another insurer under the exchange that will cover it. If they do then find out if you can
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#167
Reading through this thread I find myself somewhat amazed that even on a very liberal ...
spin
Mar 2014
#188
I find myself feeling much the same. Many DUers are opposed to Medicare Advantage plans, yet they
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#203
I had an excellent healthcare plan when I was working and it continued after I retired until ...
spin
Mar 2014
#254
I'm shocked that someone as smart and informed as Will was so seriously misled.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#459
We've all always had to deal with insurance companies not wanting to cover certain meds.
Lex
Mar 2014
#194
Just out of curiosity, what medications did you ask for that were denied?
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2014
#197
Those are brand name formulations of things like beta-interferon. Not to be naive, but is it
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2014
#211
Or there could be alternative treatments that are cheaper and shown to be equally effective.
TrollBuster9090
Mar 2014
#226
It is standard practice of insurance companies to deny medications or claims.
Glimmer of Hope
Mar 2014
#242
The argument I suspect that will be made is the restrictions were hidden or ambiguous. My only
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#252
Congratulations Mr. Pitt. You are the Free Republic's favorite DUmmie today!!!!
Cofitachequi
Mar 2014
#271
There have been numerous posts in this thread with suggestions, most not being responded to by the
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#310
He has the right to feel horrible about his wife's illness and the difficulties in . . .
brush
Mar 2014
#493
Perhaps if the President had offered up a few fights for the middle class on any of the following:
truedelphi
Mar 2014
#376
I believe that Will found his own words to express exactly what he was feeling...
bvar22
Mar 2014
#347
I am sure the over the top post is all over the RW groups. It is really sad that instead of
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#288
Why do some DU members watch faux? To see what the enemy is saying. Saying "fuck you Obama" is
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#306
it seems like a case of strange bedfellows to go scanning FR for what they say about "dummies"
bobduca
Mar 2014
#317
I don't watch any of that garbage, however, that is the reason I have been told when I inquired.
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#326
Yup. He's either ignorant of his own product or he just told a big fat fib. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#332
No, but it means it's worth the effort, despite what the agent said, to check the formularies
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#437
The ACA has been saving a lot of lives. So fuck your childish, petty, "fuck you".
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#298
I would not be surprised if your post gets hidden, while the ops didn't. This is not a constructiv
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#302
Yea, I mean fuck Obama for expanding Medicaid and buying Medicare 8 more years.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#312
People do seem to judge things only by how it directly affects them, not unlike 1%ers.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#418
Actually, Will blew it. I know why he's panicking but he's been given false information
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#331
Actually the OP didn't say coverage was denied, but the opposite, that coverage was given
DebJ
Mar 2014
#417
Raven is Will's mom and therefore has more insight into her daughter in law's situation than you do.
JVS
Mar 2014
#367
There are plenty of folks out there with MS who are getting their medications covered.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#397
The difference is that his friend the insurance agent gave him false information
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#431
No, but M.S. is a really scary disease. I hope Will doesn't give up and gets this solved now. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#454
Yes, she is. But apparently they've both been given false information by their friend the insurance
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#428
No--it is Will's friend who is wrong. Pwnmom has detailed how Will was given the wrong
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#572
Any "reform" that left the insurance companies in the loop was a loser from the get-go.
alarimer
Mar 2014
#339
Some perfunctory words of sympathy for Will Pitt's wife and then the usual PR from the usual people.
pa28
Mar 2014
#413
"Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you."
Cha
Mar 2014
#427
he is probably upset he can't profit off a disaster presidency like during Bush's days
JI7
Mar 2014
#438
WilliamPitt, as I understand it you live in MA, so direct your outrage to Gov. Romney.
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#436
they said "it'll be fixed, don't worry": now they're telling us to not even acknowledge
MisterP
Mar 2014
#441
Hours on hold only to talk with some underling with canned answers while a loved on is ill
JEB
Mar 2014
#463
Why didn't you explain to him that his agent-friend gave him the wrong information
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#487
Yeah, you need to explain that.. are not people getting good benefits? You make it sound
Cha
Mar 2014
#494
This was nothing more than a great big wet kiss to the health insurance companies...
truebrit71
Mar 2014
#584
try cannabinoids, even Nat. Cancer Inst. admits they work in multitude of med conditions
wordpix
Mar 2014
#545
Is this one of those Will Pitt rants that will be completely retracted in two days?
theboss
Mar 2014
#574
I doubt it. This thread should have never been allowed because of the disgraceful names the
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#701
the drug corps price gouge in the USA on long term treatment, all meds. Same thing with aids meds.
Sunlei
Mar 2014
#594
I'm very sorry for your many years of having to work the system when dealing with for profit
Zorra
Mar 2014
#692
Why YES I have, and I was able to find the The Formulary list for all 5 companies on the exchange
krawhitham
Mar 2014
#688
I feel sorry for Pitt having to resort to this kind of hate at the wrong person.. "anger"
Cha
Mar 2014
#630
Calling the President a piece of shit used-car salesman very much should be allowed.
donheld
Mar 2014
#703