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Rilgin

(787 posts)
232. Metaphor
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:08 PM
Mar 2014

This is the right answer IMO. We need to replace our current hodge podge private profit driven health care system in its entirety (ACA included) with a modern system.

Those of us unhappy with Obama believe that is what 2009 represented, our best chance in a generation to modernize our health care system. Instead, this opportunity was squandered and given away in private meetings with Big Pharma and Big Hospitals and Big Insurance and a proven wrong theory of carrot driven bi-partisanship. I wonder what would have happened if Obama had chosen the other path of directly mobilizing public sentiment (at that time he could have brought a million people to the Mall) to directly and publicly fight these entities and the congressional lackeys who would have fought for the status quo. We have some who assert as "fact" rather than "opinion" that it would have been impossible to get more than the ACA. This is clearly true with some congress critters but I really wonder what a real political fight would have given us. Again, some of us had the same opinion at the time that it was a "fact" that no matter what he did the concept of bi-partisan action was a pipedream.

Last a metaphor.

Those who constantly provide an opinion (again not fact as supporters sometimes assert) that the ACA (institutionalizing insurance companies) is a step in the right direction in getting to single player (getting rid of Insurance Companies) is like someone in the middle of the Country who wants to get to Canada (chosen deliberately) saying the best way to get there is to first drive towards Texas (chosen deliberately) but pointing out to the rest of us who are unhappy that they are driving slower than the right wing uncle in the back seat wants to.

What kind of lectures did you get, Aerows? Whisp Mar 2014 #1
It isn't about banning Aerows Mar 2014 #3
You are accusing me of this, aren't you? Whisp Mar 2014 #5
You were in the thread Aerows Mar 2014 #7
what thread, can you give me a link? n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #143
Here.... Agschmid Mar 2014 #149
''We voted for something better, but we were sold out.'' nt Whisp Mar 2014 #161
We were sold out Aerows Mar 2014 #303
Having been in exactly that position, trying to save someone's life who could not afford HC sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #253
I have Canadian friends, too Aerows Mar 2014 #254
I know, and I could not agree more with you, Aerows. I wonder what their purpose is? I can't imagine sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #255
This really hit close to home for me Aerows Mar 2014 #258
Excellent post, I couldn't agree more, again. Sick to death of the attempt to silence people here on sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #261
Thanks for that sabrina 1 Aerows Mar 2014 #267
This American is grateful for ACA. Skidmore Mar 2014 #256
You have every right to your opinion on the ACA Aerows Mar 2014 #259
Do you agree that for others, it is not working and that they too have a right to state sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #264
Please go back and read what I wrote for content Skidmore Mar 2014 #266
I did. It doesn't address my question which I thought was simple enough. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #268
Sabrina, people need to stop thinking of ACA Skidmore Mar 2014 #272
Telling people what they need to stop thinking? Aerows Mar 2014 #323
First, l wasn't addressing you. Second, you Skidmore Mar 2014 #378
Stirring the honeypot? Aerows Mar 2014 #379
In this locale, it is a colloquialism which means creating turmoil or a stink. Skidmore Mar 2014 #380
I agree but the problem seems to be that we were organized and did have a set of principles we sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #377
Telling someone bvar22 Mar 2014 #18
I said no such fucking thing, buster. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #20
You haven't ever attacked Democrats... bvar22 Mar 2014 #38
detachment, schmatachment Whisp Mar 2014 #42
Don't engage these people, Whisp ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #131
Yeah, I believe that's what the OP is suggesting, Conservative. Marr Mar 2014 #140
Oh, that's right. I did completely forget to add that one other point for Whisp ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #199
You get chastised and think it is a compliment? HangOnKids Mar 2014 #204
"Completely lying their extremist asses off" Aerows Mar 2014 #346
That is exactly what I am suggesting Aerows Mar 2014 #263
Thats the problem, CD. "They" are NOT Democrats. bvar22 Mar 2014 #231
Bingo Aerows Mar 2014 #260
ROFL!!! bvar22 Mar 2014 #265
Still attacking Democrats on DU I see. Btw, what is revleft.com? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #269
Should he get involved in the local Democratic community of Toronto? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #295
Maybe the local Democratic community of Sydney n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #301
I can't keep up with the countries Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #302
Ya know quakerboy Mar 2014 #174
yah sure. you win, I'm Hitler. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #176
That is pretty much the most colossal leap I've ever seen here on DU. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #182
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Mar 2014 #201
Some of the strongest Aerows Mar 2014 #81
I'd even go so far as to say Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #91
They aren't Aerows Mar 2014 #93
That description Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #94
You are correct Aerows Mar 2014 #96
I didn't even realize that. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #206
It really does Aerows Mar 2014 #246
+1 Agschmid Mar 2014 #134
The notion that Canadians and Australians don't know what we face is complete and utter bullshit Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #6
I'm sure you have great health insurance Aerows Mar 2014 #8
"I'm sure you have great health insurance" Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #10
Yes we need to fix some things Andy823 Mar 2014 #64
+100! nt arthritisR_US Mar 2014 #104
Agree!! Check this out Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #141
This exactly Bettie Mar 2014 #230
You obviously haven't noticed, but the ACA is NOT a step toward Single Payer. bvar22 Mar 2014 #236
and how about those that live in Red States blaming Obama for the lack of Medicaid expansion VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #58
If that was directed at me, ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #181
How was it directed at you? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #191
I said IF.... ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #192
but when they come to bash Pres. Obama....you are all FOR that "disconnect" huh? Bet you don't VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #67
Nailed it Number23 Mar 2014 #79
Knowing how it works and living with how it works ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #179
Precisely n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #305
Yes... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #113
That is all that it amounts to Aerows Mar 2014 #126
You offered casual dismissals, IIRC. Marr Mar 2014 #128
o right, just because you say so. Whisp Mar 2014 #135
Oh, please-- would you need a link if I said the sky was blue, too? Marr Mar 2014 #146
When lies and bullshit stand like they are gospel truths Whisp Mar 2014 #157
Blah, blah, blah. /nt Marr Mar 2014 #166
That means you are done - you don't have anything so you blah blah. Whisp Mar 2014 #170
Good On You Marr HangOnKids Mar 2014 #202
If someone breathes wrong with a criticism of Obama Aerows Mar 2014 #321
I can't follow your thinking. Why not focus on what it takes to fix bluestate10 Mar 2014 #2
Sure you can Aerows Mar 2014 #4
I get it. Rex Mar 2014 #127
I don't think your system is fixable; I think it needs replacing. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #28
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Skittles Mar 2014 #56
It isn't Aerows Mar 2014 #173
CORRECT Skittles Mar 2014 #178
I don't think we should try to fix it or replace it. zeemike Mar 2014 #70
That is actually a far better idea Aerows Mar 2014 #352
Metaphor Rilgin Mar 2014 #232
Oh, it could be fixed very easily. Orsino Mar 2014 #234
You are correct. It is hopelessly broken. Sad thing is we have far too many people supporting a sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #262
My question whether you have an idea of how our political system actually works Skidmore Mar 2014 #278
Hey, at least that person recognizes that our system is broken. n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #284
I take offense at that. Skidmore Mar 2014 #291
"People sitting on votes" Aerows Mar 2014 #293
Those who sat out the last election to teach a lesson. Skidmore Mar 2014 #304
Are you directly accusing me of doing so? Aerows Mar 2014 #306
No, I am not. Skidmore Mar 2014 #307
Seemed like you were Aerows Mar 2014 #313
2010 midterm voter turnout: Who gets the blame? Independents myrna minx Mar 2014 #308
It's the same symptom of a greater problem. Aerows Mar 2014 #310
How many of those "independents" were those eschewing party affiliation Skidmore Mar 2014 #311
You need to ask them. myrna minx Mar 2014 #312
Yes, I do. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #285
Aren't you grateful Aerows Mar 2014 #322
I live in the US, and I do not think it is fixable nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #36
The problem is that they "swing" at those who are not happy with the ACA Fumesucker Mar 2014 #44
NO just like the post you just responded to...you are not defending fixing it....you are defending VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #69
You really twisted what he said... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #116
Well sorry to disappoint you....that is not happening... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #119
No I didn't prove your point... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #186
It covers "little" seriously? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #190
People with chronic conditions and high deductibles need help, too. Lars39 Mar 2014 #193
AND they are getting it... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #194
Not necessarily, if they fall into that gap of age and income. Lars39 Mar 2014 #196
and not one single socialized medicine plan EVER went off without a hitch.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #195
Lead, follow or get out of the way. :-) Lars39 Mar 2014 #197
ACA is not socialized medicine malokvale77 Mar 2014 #198
I love Canada and our health care riverbendviewgal Mar 2014 #9
But pointing out that we have a shitty health care system Aerows Mar 2014 #12
There's a difference between... one_voice Mar 2014 #17
I don't recall saying in my post Aerows Mar 2014 #19
I didn't accuse you of saying that... one_voice Mar 2014 #27
How about apologizing Aerows Mar 2014 #270
Absolutely. one_voice Mar 2014 #271
I don't have a problem with people criticizing underthematrix Mar 2014 #30
+100000 treestar Mar 2014 #39
Well, truthfully, I *do* expect lots more from President Obama than I did from my mother BuelahWitch Mar 2014 #97
All kidding aside... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #200
Nothing says maturity like Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #100
You know what is "sad"? It's your ignorance on President Obama.. but, go ahead Cha Mar 2014 #87
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #11
Thanks. Aerows Mar 2014 #13
Does this ProSense Mar 2014 #14
+1000000 It improved the situation in THIS country treestar Mar 2014 #40
Oh my Aerows Mar 2014 #356
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #15
Yes, it does Aerows Mar 2014 #16
hahahahaha.....nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #22
Post got hidden HangOnKids Mar 2014 #205
Oh hell ya. Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #210
Classy HangOnKids Mar 2014 #211
Thanks. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #212
You are very welcome HangOnKids Mar 2014 #213
Nah. I just don't care what you think. Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #214
Not interested at all in what you think HangOnKids Mar 2014 #215
"Not interested at all in what you think" Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #216
Oh gee you got me there BOSS HangOnKids Mar 2014 #217
LOL. Too easy. Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #218
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Mar 2014 #348
Worst hide ever treestar Mar 2014 #219
The OP is saddled with $18,000 medical debt because she was bitten by a raccoon and myrna minx Mar 2014 #220
Not everyone knows that treestar Mar 2014 #223
Now you do n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #343
She has plenty of rights! n/t QC Mar 2014 #221
Some people make everything too personal treestar Mar 2014 #224
Remind me how personal to take an attack Aerows Mar 2014 #345
Don't put personal stuff on the board treestar Mar 2014 #351
So the board isn't a place where we share our views Aerows Mar 2014 #353
It's just unwise to put personal stuff on the board treestar Mar 2014 #362
She's giving you free range to do it back Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #370
The difference between me and many people here Aerows Mar 2014 #371
I have most of that crowd on ignore Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #374
Good hide, I saw that last night and was going to alert Autumn Mar 2014 #229
Some of the most disruptive people ever to join DU QC Mar 2014 #233
I remember what he did in the host forum. Autumn Mar 2014 #238
That poster repeatedly mocks me Aerows Mar 2014 #347
Okay....this thread has me laughing my ass off literally...thank you for that one.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #71
funny JI7 Mar 2014 #21
but Americans can tell Libyans how great it was under gadaffi JI7 Mar 2014 #23
You NAILED it. The OP has been on this Canadians etc. shouldn't talk about US policies tangent Number23 Mar 2014 #82
Being as you are Australian Aerows Mar 2014 #89
Being as how you don't know what you're talking about as usual Number23 Mar 2014 #92
LOL Aerows Mar 2014 #95
What you need to be "hitting" is the sheets. Your posts never make sense but this OP is Number23 Mar 2014 #98
I'd dig up one of your posts Aerows Mar 2014 #99
I am begging you. PLEASE find ONE post where I say that I am from Australia Number23 Mar 2014 #102
Where could have she EVER got THAT idea??? Puglover Mar 2014 #110
LMAO Aerows Mar 2014 #118
Where does it say the poster is Australian? Spazito Mar 2014 #120
She's down under Aerows Mar 2014 #121
She has stated she is an American living in Australia many times... Spazito Mar 2014 #124
Puglover posted a link Aerows Mar 2014 #129
I read it, I'm not sure you did though... Spazito Mar 2014 #147
I would NOT Puglover Mar 2014 #130
I have no idea whether you alerted or not... Spazito Mar 2014 #148
Nice try at deflection. Puglover Mar 2014 #155
Wow, red herring much, your post was in reference to the poster being Australian... Spazito Mar 2014 #164
LOL Puglover Mar 2014 #168
lol back... Spazito Mar 2014 #172
. Puglover Mar 2014 #175
Sorry, I don't click on links I don't know... Spazito Mar 2014 #180
The logic is simple Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #339
I was not in any way shape or form Aerows Mar 2014 #357
That's fair enough... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #366
I am going to answer your post as Puglover Mar 2014 #363
Thanks for the fairly civil reply... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #364
Oh cmon. It was Puglover Mar 2014 #365
Psssst.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #122
Pssst Aerows Mar 2014 #125
You also know Americans can have dual citizenship too right? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #150
You're wrong. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #151
I'm not sneering. Puglover Mar 2014 #158
o dear Whisp Mar 2014 #183
This message was self-deleted by its author Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #163
Here's some facts for you... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #360
How did I know you'd be showing Puglover Mar 2014 #145
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Mar 2014 #177
It doesn't matter if someone is from another country Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #222
It's not where they live, it's that they're being obnoxious. Lars39 Mar 2014 #228
Exactly. Imagine if I were to hang out on a politics board in France, QC Mar 2014 #235
Perfect analogy! Lars39 Mar 2014 #237
Which was my point Aerows Mar 2014 #250
But Monsieur Hollande is just so dreamy!!! QC Mar 2014 #292
That's not what I said Aerows Mar 2014 #244
WOW. bvar22 Mar 2014 #240
Many of them don't Aerows Mar 2014 #245
I saved you the trouble. bvar22 Mar 2014 #242
You have got to be fucking kidding me. Marr Mar 2014 #169
It sure does. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #208
Yup. Lars39 Mar 2014 #209
That's why I brought it up Aerows Mar 2014 #273
You sound bitter Aerows Mar 2014 #325
Can you be an American and be happy ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #24
people must be upset at criticism of the koch brother ads JI7 Mar 2014 #33
No we "Americans" are all supposed to agree that Pres. Obama is a VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #73
Excellent news for your niece! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #75
so Canadians can't speak out against Koch Brother Ads ? JI7 Mar 2014 #25
Did I say that in my post anywhere Aerows Mar 2014 #41
you are talking about foreigners commenting on the US JI7 Mar 2014 #43
No. Aerows Mar 2014 #48
so they can't criticize the Koch Brother Ads on Obamacare JI7 Mar 2014 #49
Yes, JI7. Aerows Mar 2014 #54
But you see....you don't seem to get WHY the Koch bros commercials have been tossed at you VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #160
So why is it you cannot afford the ACA while everyone that the Koch bros could drag out can? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #153
excuse me, but you were wanting to shut Me up. Whisp Mar 2014 #52
So it is okay for YOU to decide who is supposed to STFU....is that the ticket? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #74
The people who do this have no ability to see themselves as we see them Fumesucker Mar 2014 #26
I see no gloating of the kind you spew. Whisp Mar 2014 #29
Of course you gloat Fumesucker Mar 2014 #35
haha, the bait isn't tasty enough so I'm not biting! Whisp Mar 2014 #45
i had no idea you had it so easy in life JI7 Mar 2014 #59
Yeh, that's me. They call me Gloaty round here. Whisp Mar 2014 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Mar 2014 #203
NO this is perceived ONLY by those that do NOT support the ACA... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #76
"Those below know more about those above". nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #32
Indeed they do n/t Fumesucker Mar 2014 #46
K&R. nt LittleBlue Mar 2014 #31
Living in another country does not mean they cannot understand US politics nt treestar Mar 2014 #34
How about "the Have's don't understand the Have Not's". nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #51
, blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #37
I'm a dual citizen - Irish and American and I agree 100% riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #47
This thread has definitely been an eye opener for me. Lars39 Mar 2014 #162
I see four lights Aerows Mar 2014 #317
Glad you got the reference! Lars39 Mar 2014 #318
Great episode :D Aerows Mar 2014 #320
Haha! Fucking A, why do these folks think they can bully folks into seeing five. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #368
If they can't bully you into seeing five Aerows Mar 2014 #369
I don't know why people do that. It's so fucking rude to lecture LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #50
Precisely Aerows Mar 2014 #77
How about a Canadian... gcomeau Mar 2014 #53
Exactly! Andy823 Mar 2014 #68
they STILL expected that Obama could wave his magic wand and we all would have magic VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #78
this stance is getting more desperate by the minute.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #55
i thinkt he entire world should attack the Koch Brothers and their bs ads JI7 Mar 2014 #57
Why can't we first attack those that are calling the duly elected Democratic President on VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #60
as others said i think that was an audition for koch brothers ad JI7 Mar 2014 #62
and the entire world should see tea talk in action: Whisp Mar 2014 #63
hahahahahaha very clever Whisp....very clever indeed! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #65
He nailed the audition. Cha Mar 2014 #90
K&R n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #66
Big problems with ACA ErikJ Mar 2014 #72
I've lived in the US and Canada so maybe I have some perspective NoOneMan Mar 2014 #80
They would have conniption fits Aerows Mar 2014 #86
this is not true treestar Mar 2014 #274
Well this isn't Canada, is it? So we now have health care insurance for Millions of People Cha Mar 2014 #88
You really think a person who has health care in Canada would be bitter Autumn Mar 2014 #241
and HOW did the Canadians do it by the way? Fiat? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #133
Yes! One province at a time... but bvar22 Mar 2014 #243
They would BE required to pay TAXES for it.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #247
Thank you! And it would probably be Canadians who would inform us of that treestar Mar 2014 #275
exactly....they think this President can do whatever he wants... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #276
Which is where we need to begin to fix this. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #338
Yes they would have a full blown riot if they had to have what we get. Autumn Mar 2014 #227
its a stop gap measure between now and when states CAN make Single Payer systems... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #249
because clinton did such a better job getting his passed. pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #83
Still better that what we had Andy823 Mar 2014 #84
Obama's got his northern flank covered Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #85
Canadians and Australians should please disregard the OP. gulliver Mar 2014 #101
At this point..... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #108
TOTAL agreement!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #137
This Canadian was born before there was universal healthcare of any kind... Spazito Mar 2014 #103
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #106
Hey Number23, it's good to see you as well! Spazito Mar 2014 #107
When Bush was in office, Americans loved it when non-Americans trashed him endlessly Number23 Mar 2014 #109
Yes, sadly, DU has changed a lot... Spazito Mar 2014 #111
I've read the whole thing now JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #324
Thank You! You said exactly what I was thinking but much more eloquently. arthritisR_US Mar 2014 #112
Thank you for the compliment! Spazito Mar 2014 #114
For me he sure is! :) nt arthritisR_US Mar 2014 #117
Thanks for that post. Whisp Mar 2014 #123
It was a brutal fight, one we almost lost... Spazito Mar 2014 #136
THIS is the truth... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #144
+1 tblue37 Mar 2014 #154
I think I got it Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #105
Aerows must still be on mom and dads's policy. idendoit Mar 2014 #115
I wish to God Aerows Mar 2014 #139
I have to clean my monitor now....Thanks! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #165
Well in the thread the other day you were convinced I'm not a citizen... Agschmid Mar 2014 #132
Could you link to the post where Aerows Mar 2014 #138
Here... Agschmid Mar 2014 #142
Well, to my credit Aerows Mar 2014 #152
No condemnation from me. Agschmid Mar 2014 #156
Thanks Aerows Mar 2014 #159
How about we "allow" everyone the right to say demwing Mar 2014 #167
Sure Aerows Mar 2014 #171
But they can have an opinion about the politics of it treestar Mar 2014 #277
Don't take it to heart Aerows, none of it is really about the ACA. Autumn Mar 2014 #184
Thanks Autumn Aerows Mar 2014 #185
You just pay them no mind. Autumn Mar 2014 #187
This Canadian agrees with you laundry_queen Mar 2014 #188
Thanks, LQ Aerows Mar 2014 #189
Amazing post. Puglover Mar 2014 #226
How convient LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #207
Not what I said Aerows Mar 2014 #282
No one should belittle anyone LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #381
It isn't about those abroad Aerows Mar 2014 #382
K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #225
WARNING to all Canadians, Austrailians, and Europeans bvar22 Mar 2014 #239
I came to Australia from the States. mattclearing Mar 2014 #248
Tone is everything sometimes...you're being polite. Lars39 Mar 2014 #251
Anytime. :) mattclearing Mar 2014 #281
I don't care who discusses what Aerows Mar 2014 #252
And who gave you the right to decide others' rights? Whisp Mar 2014 #279
Hmmm. Lets see, is this "harrass", or "belittle" or "scold"... Lars39 Mar 2014 #283
I don't think any of those fit for someone telling me to shut up Whisp Mar 2014 #286
More like asking for basic politeness and good manners instead of steamrolling snark. Lars39 Mar 2014 #287
you replied to the wrong poster on that. nt/ Whisp Mar 2014 #288
Oh, not at all. Lars39 Mar 2014 #289
I had a very good reason for posting this Aerows Mar 2014 #290
where have I bashed and mocked and belittled people who are struggling? Whisp Mar 2014 #294
Awww. And just when I was getting to know you! Lars39 Mar 2014 #296
"those that can't figure out how to take care of their own responsibilities" Aerows Mar 2014 #299
You're right, Aerows ... polly7 Mar 2014 #300
That is all that it was Aerows Mar 2014 #355
When you tell people what they can and can't say, your point is going to be secondary. nt mattclearing Mar 2014 #280
Pointing out hypocrisy Aerows Mar 2014 #298
As a resident and citizen of a country consistently rated among the top ten of "best healthcare"... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #257
$18,000 because I had to get rabies shots Aerows Mar 2014 #349
To me that's just absurd. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #358
One person outright accused me of being a racist Aerows Mar 2014 #359
The biggest marketers are not consumers of the program....nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #297
... Whisp Mar 2014 #309
Really now! Shit stirring again. Lars39 Mar 2014 #314
Are you implying that OP is saying this? myrna minx Mar 2014 #315
Yes, she is. Lars39 Mar 2014 #316
Can you imagine the despair of receiving $18,000 US in medical bills myrna minx Mar 2014 #319
I've tried to stay above it all Aerows Mar 2014 #327
Just hang on there, sister. Whisp Mar 2014 #336
She has made it plain as day in this thread that it is not where you were living Lars39 Mar 2014 #340
Yes it is acceptable. I'm just a weeny piker compared to some. Whisp Mar 2014 #341
And that says it all..."yes it is acceptable" Lars39 Mar 2014 #342
When you post such a despicable thing Aerows Mar 2014 #354
I was going to pshop that to Canadyen but was too lazy. Whisp Mar 2014 #361
You know what Whisp? Aerows Mar 2014 #326
I agree n/t Bernie2016 Mar 2014 #328
If anyone is curious why I made this post Aerows Mar 2014 #329
I thought you (or whoever reported it) might want to see the result of the jury decision Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #330
I don't like being accused of being a teabagger Aerows Mar 2014 #331
Well, I'm probably more of a lefty than you, however, I have never believed that Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #332
You might be more of a lefty than me Aerows Mar 2014 #333
That's what I want to hear. BUT Rome wasn't built in a day. And burning it down as the RW Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #334
For the record Aerows Mar 2014 #335
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but I doubt it! :) nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #337
Maybe not. I'll still be standing on the front lines Aerows Mar 2014 #344
We're working for the same thing - to get corporate control out of govt. But to do that... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #367
Here's the thing Aerows Mar 2014 #350
Aerows, beyond the intrapersonal exchanges here, LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #372
I have no idea. Aerows Mar 2014 #373
Don't let them deny it without a fight. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #375
How in the flying fuck can an insurance company deny Puglover Mar 2014 #376
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