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tragically, G_j Mar 2014 #1
I wonder if the animals would agree that life in captivity is worth living. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #2
I think the point is that in some cases that's not a choice; not trying to breed them in capitivity el_bryanto Mar 2014 #7
There's no need to wonder, given that non-human animals are incapable of expressing or even forming Jgarrick Mar 2014 #11
Do wild non-humans voluntarily run into a cage designed to remove them from their families MoonRiver Mar 2014 #13
It depends. Has the cage been baited? If it has, that bear will stroll right in. Jgarrick Mar 2014 #15
Sometimes FreeJoe Mar 2014 #63
The local schnauzer seems pretty content with his life... Hip_Flask Mar 2014 #43
Scientists disagree with you - TBF Mar 2014 #67
The better answer is to work to preserve their habitat. Sienna86 Mar 2014 #20
I absolutely agree with that G_j Mar 2014 #23
I remember the last time I went to a circus gollygee Mar 2014 #3
We are a wretched species. --nt CrispyQ Mar 2014 #4
I'm sorry you feel that way. hueymahl Mar 2014 #21
even worse, I think G_j Mar 2014 #25
It's a realistic way to live. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #40
+100 Duppers Mar 2014 #44
No, not in denial hueymahl Mar 2014 #46
To be honest, I have given up. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #51
It can be "pure evil," or close enough. Not always though. DirkGently Mar 2014 #5
"hate all" reddread Mar 2014 #6
Yup... You took it a bit to far. Agschmid Mar 2014 #8
Well, you may not be totally informed about the abuse that takes place in most of those places. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #9
habitat destruction is the one thing that matters most reddread Mar 2014 #12
+1 Agschmid Mar 2014 #39
Yes indeed--I watched "Blackfish" last week on Netflix librechik Mar 2014 #10
I recommend the recent book "Death at Seaworld." kairos12 Mar 2014 #22
There are some great humane zoos naturallyselected Mar 2014 #14
My point is whether it is right for us to enslave animals because we are curious about them MoonRiver Mar 2014 #16
I think "enslave" is a bit too anthropomorphic a term. DirkGently Mar 2014 #28
I don't know why you think the term "enslavement" applies strictly to humans. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #33
For the same reason "tax evasion" does? DirkGently Mar 2014 #42
The logic is the reality of what happens to animals at the hands of their human captors. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #45
That's physical cruelty. Not "enslavement." DirkGently Mar 2014 #49
Well, I completely disagree with you. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #50
Circuses & amusement parks are not the question. DirkGently Mar 2014 #62
Pretty soon there will be no large wild animals. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #17
Sounds like the Copenhagen Zoo. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #18
No they don't. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #19
What we need to do is stop the killing and destruction of the habitat. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #24
I don't much care about the humans. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #29
I completely agree with you. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #30
Even if we stopped ALL fossil fuel consumption today NickB79 Mar 2014 #72
... CFLDem Mar 2014 #26
I don't. LWolf Mar 2014 #27
As a zoologist, I've got the zoo boo's, too. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #31
it is where my kids learned to love and appreciate animals other than dogs and cats dembotoz Mar 2014 #32
Key words being "educated populace" LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #61
knr...I think most of the "research and preservation" by some zoos is PR... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #34
Exactly. Sea World said the same b.s. until CNN revealed the ugly truth. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #36
I'm with you - we took our kids into nature, not to those places. polichick Mar 2014 #35
But, but chimpanzees wearing cowboy outfits are funny! tclambert Mar 2014 #37
When is the last time you were at Seaworld? yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #38
Have you seen "Blackfish?" MoonRiver Mar 2014 #41
Haters gotta hate Android3.14 Mar 2014 #47
I'm not so glad that you seem to be ok with the torture and abuse of animals. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #48
I'm unhappy that you apply opinions on others that they have never expressed. Android3.14 Mar 2014 #54
I've never liked zoos or circuses or anything in which wild animals are captive. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #52
Dislike, is such a great word Android3.14 Mar 2014 #56
Do you hate someone who rapes and kills a small child? MoonRiver Mar 2014 #58
I'd incarcerate the person Android3.14 Mar 2014 #60
And, in a strange way, this parallels what is also happening to humanity, humans RKP5637 Mar 2014 #53
Agreed. As another here said, it would be best to preserve Triana Mar 2014 #55
Zoos are a relic of the era when nature was to be conquered .. Vox Moi Mar 2014 #57
That is true in many cases, but... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #59
In what ways are really good zoos... FreeJoe Mar 2014 #64
Not all circus companies use animals, the largest and by far most lucrative does Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #65
Agreed. It breaks my heart to see innocent animals imprisoned. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #66
I worked at a conservation-oriented zoo, and I will firmly say that they're about more than WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #68
That sounds more like a wildlife sanctuary, which I completely support. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #69
It wasn't quite a wildlife sanctuary, though many of the exhibits could pass for one. WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #70
That is good stuff. And very much needed. DirkGently Mar 2014 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem Mar 2014 #71
I visited the St. Louis Zoo last week DefenseLawyer Mar 2014 #73
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