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ErikJ

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29. +1000. THAT woo is making rhinos extinct--and tigers--and many others.

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Mon Apr 14, 2014, 12:50 PM

Apr 2014

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Somehow the Chinese have to be educated that they are just woo woo meds.

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How "woo" graduates to "not woo". [View all] Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 OP

That's sort of a eurocentric version of declaring what 'woo' is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #1

No really it is only "eurocentric' if one thinks that the scientific method is simply a cultural Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #3

I'm not running anywhere. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #71

yeah but jollyreaper2112 Apr 2014 #7

If it works effectively, then it was never woo in the first place. NuclearDem Apr 2014 #13

I agree. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #69

We don't have to understand the method of action to say it works. jeff47 Apr 2014 #16

I bet you subsribe to "Social Text" and believe everything it prints psiman Apr 2014 #30

I have no idea what 'Social Text' is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #67

The Chinese, themselves, discarding a lot of things that didn't stand up Warpy Apr 2014 #37

Which is fine. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #70

K&R n/t X_Digger Apr 2014 #2

Perfect example markbark Apr 2014 #4

Slight correction: Nevernose Apr 2014 #5

By rational people, sure. By big-pharma? Not a chance. tridim Apr 2014 #6

depends on your claim jollyreaper2112 Apr 2014 #8

Just what do you claim your blended greens do? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #9

Same thing non-blended greens do for anyone's health. tridim Apr 2014 #14

I've never seen "eating liquid kale" classed as "woo" Scootaloo Apr 2014 #51

There is anti-woo, woo all over the place... tridim Apr 2014 #58

That depends on the claims about them. jeff47 Apr 2014 #12

If you are drinking those greens for good nutrition it is not woo hack89 Apr 2014 #26

What about drinking it to ~prevent~ cancer and for general health? tridim Apr 2014 #34

It is medically proven that the right diet can prevent certain cancers hack89 Apr 2014 #39

Well yea, there is no "cure for cancer" tridim Apr 2014 #43

debunk jollyreaper2112 Apr 2014 #10

I wouldn't class herbal medicine as 'woo' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #11

I won't nit pick. I was using the term generically in the way it is being used in DU's "woo-war". Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #18

And then there are these fine products of science: Skidmore Apr 2014 #15

Yes indeed. Which is why the scientific methods used for evaluation are not static. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #20

Herbs have been used by healers to treat illnesses and wounds successfully for Zorra Apr 2014 #17

which is why alternative medicine should embrace testing not run away from it. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #19

If there is an aversion to testing I think it's more about regulating and control than fear cui bono Apr 2014 #54

Mother Nature had 4.5 billion years to get ready for us. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #21

Mourning Dove's statement is religious in nature, and a denial of evolution cthulu2016 Apr 2014 #25

Indeed. It seems that if a claim is old and non-European, it's automatically valid and true. arcane1 Apr 2014 #32

I'm afraid Mourning Dove's theory of existence is nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2014 #27

Prove it. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #28

Prove it does and tell us what herb cures Alzheimer's. eShirl Apr 2014 #46

You'll need to ask the source. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #49

That's what I thought. eShirl Apr 2014 #63

The source is dead. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #77

Yeah if she'd only eaten more Dandelions, she'd be 130 today. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #78

You can't prove a negative. That's impossible. chrisa Apr 2014 #50

If it is impossible to prove a negative.... idendoit Apr 2014 #85

Well, she didn't have a profit motive. Atman Apr 2014 #35

Of course She has a motive. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #40

I agree...but different kind of profit. Atman Apr 2014 #42

While Mourning Dove's quote is nice feel good stuff, its also BS I'm afraid... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #47

You're off by about 9.3 billion years. greyl Apr 2014 #87

All. Are. One. DeSwiss Apr 2014 #89

Just gimme some Rhino horn powder for my Johnson. progressoid Apr 2014 #22

+1000. THAT woo is making rhinos extinct--and tigers--and many others. ErikJ Apr 2014 #29

Much of China is still and "ancient" culture. Atman Apr 2014 #36

If it's stiff and cylidrical, it MUST be good for erections! arcane1 Apr 2014 #44

Woo: chiropractic, homeopathy, reiki, healing crystals, antivaccine nuttery. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #23

I'd buy into this psiman Apr 2014 #33

I've generally been leary of chiropractors, and I had a bad experience callous taoboy Apr 2014 #61

Actually, I ready a study about 20 years ago that said chiropractic tblue37 Apr 2014 #64

Chiropractic claims that illness is caused by pockets of negative energy... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #68

My chiropractor pushes no woo. callous taoboy Apr 2014 #73

Subluxation PADemD Apr 2014 #79

... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #82

... PADemD Apr 2014 #84

Not Woo: Reiki PADemD Apr 2014 #80

Just because there is some observable placebo effect doesn't mean it's not woo. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #83

I think it's suspicious that they don't name the plant. mathematic Apr 2014 #24

Are placebos woo? They can be very effective. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2014 #31

That is why we need to be careful psiman Apr 2014 #38

I was thinking mostly about medication for depression. Quite a bit of evidence there. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #41

A Danish study debunked the placebo effect. tblue37 Apr 2014 #65

Or are they all placebos? A Simple Game Apr 2014 #72

"Placebo Effect Debunked" sounds like an Onion headline. :) (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #74

Some of these establishment types are sceptics that water is wet. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #45

A skeptic should be open to new evidence about, well anything... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #48

Some of these guys are bought off by Big Pharma. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #52

Here's the deal. I have problems with the arrogance of those who present 'science' as a Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #53

There's only one thing in your post that I have a problem with... cui bono Apr 2014 #56

You bring up discredited science, that is all you are doing, people are flawed and biased... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #57

it is a process, not a static set of beliefs. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #81

Who says herbal medicine is woo? cui bono Apr 2014 #55

Yes. What do we call 'alternative medicine' that's been proven to work? Medicine. Electric Monk Apr 2014 #59

When The Miz takes Ric Flair's Gimmick. Shoulders of Giants Apr 2014 #60

Our judicial system would never allow woo testimony. callous taoboy Apr 2014 #62

Old medical traditions are in no sense "woo" eridani Apr 2014 #66

So how do you know which traditional remedies are bullshit and which arent? Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #76

Controlled experiments are the best test eridani Apr 2014 #86

no shit. But the role for anecdotal experience is to identify what to test. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #90

Relativity Octafish Apr 2014 #75

And when should longstanding "medical treatment" be demoted to "woo"? pnwmom Apr 2014 #88

Absolutely. Your point illustrates that it is Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #91

You can have my phrenology mannequin when you pry it from my cold, dead hands Orrex Apr 2014 #92