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In reply to the discussion: Either you believe in the scientific method or you don't [View all]dead_head
(81 posts)219. Exactly
That's why I don't like this new attitude I see everywhere that basicly claims loudly;
EITHER you accept science and never question it, or your with the flat earthers.
There's something fishy behind this attitude.
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most people do not understand a theory from a hypothesis. it's incredibly frustrating
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#25
That's what allows the Koch whores to pull their "global warming is a religion" bait-and-switch
nxylas
Apr 2014
#113
As do I. I was trying to think of an example and that was the first thing that came to mind.
arcane1
Apr 2014
#67
But what you're talking about is our knowledge of it, what is happening is still reality
cui bono
Apr 2014
#240
not correct. knowledge gained through the methodology is often shown to be invalid...
yawnmaster
Apr 2014
#293
Agreed. The whole POINT of the scientific method is that subjective preferences don't apply.
Lizzie Poppet
Apr 2014
#3
You're switching between simplicity and probability as if they're the same, but they're not.
eomer
Apr 2014
#268
I agree. In the case medical science, we want the null hypotheses to be wrong
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#9
If it could be proven tea and ginger work as well as penicillin, scientists would be thrilled.
Avalux
Apr 2014
#12
I wholeheartedly agree with your post and Mindwalker's. Science isn't immune to corruption. nt
adirondacker
Apr 2014
#202
The data gained from the scientific process can be misused, used as propaganda, hyperbole,...
yawnmaster
Apr 2014
#294
of course it can. Methods are rarely, if ever, perfect, but then it is up to the next...
yawnmaster
Apr 2014
#296
I find it strange you use the word believe to describe scientific method.
Big Blue Marble
Apr 2014
#6
i struggled with the word belief too, but i couldn't think of a better word
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#8
If you "accept" the basic principles of reason, then the scientific method flows logically from them
FarCenter
Apr 2014
#218
DU is FULL of what I call 'situational' ethics. Take the recent Bundy case in NV. MANY
kelly1mm
Apr 2014
#10
To be fair, every one of those containers arrived at the rail yard via a truck.
arcane1
Apr 2014
#112
Since productivity has increased by a factor or four or more since the end of WW II--
eridani
Apr 2014
#154
I've got an idea for what you can do with your rolling eyes and snark....
A HERETIC I AM
Apr 2014
#284
My point, which you seem to have missed, is that in both cases there is a valid court order,
kelly1mm
Apr 2014
#195
Actually, no, it does not. The validity of a court order depends not on how it was obtained, but
kelly1mm
Apr 2014
#272
OK - so if a state court judge in the state where the property is located signs an order
kelly1mm
Apr 2014
#288
Probably moreso on the right. But we know they are not clear thinkers! lol! nt
kelly1mm
Apr 2014
#210
Science isn't a democracy. You don't get to pick which hypotheses "work for you."
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#13
the nice weather is only 3 days old and i am sceptical that we will be sucked into another
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#18
this post is a little dramatic for the statement that closeupready made
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#35
Yes, though I love the series of videos from University of Nottingham...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#142
Thanks, though, for reminding me that those videos exist - I should watch them. n/t
xocet
Apr 2014
#153
I'm afraid that's nonsense. Try Google, RationalWiki, Wikipedia, Skepdic.com, etc. etc.
mr blur
Apr 2014
#69
As to the word "woo," I'm going to continue to use it until there no longer is any woo out there.
Archae
Apr 2014
#23
I like your rant except where you mention belief in the scientific method.
Vashta Nerada
Apr 2014
#31
actually belief is the right word there. a process might be perfect
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#33
If a false paper is published, it is QUICKLY peer reviewed and called out.
Dr Hobbitstein
Apr 2014
#91
I have a friend with which I discuss politics, history, literature and philosphy.
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#282
trust and belief both imply faith. had i used trust, i would have had
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#45
ii am not saying something that is natural cannot be shown to work.
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#77
We survived by fucking like rabbits and mourning a lot more dead relatives than we do now.
arcane1
Apr 2014
#107
Ever walked in a really old cemetary? Did you notice how many of the stones were for children?
LeftyMom
Apr 2014
#156
My grandmother lost her brother in the 1920's, before antibiotics were readily available.
alarimer
Apr 2014
#184
Jesus holds a gun to the acorn's head and says, "Be a tree, man, cuz we don't like ACORN."
valerief
Apr 2014
#93
"No one has yet understood what is in that acorn that tells the acorn this is what the acorn...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#96
I have a bad attitude because one of your key arguments is that you are ignorant...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#136
What "creativity"? You are using words that make no sense in context.
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#152
If one does not think evolution is a sufficient theory, it would be a mystery....
xocet
Apr 2014
#133
"...then you deduct...." What a clever use of 'deductio' ad absurdum! Not many can follow that.
xocet
Apr 2014
#211
I just googled it, assuming the study from 1998 is what you are referencing, its between 4th to 6th
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#88
Reality check- Medical Science is done inside a laboratory. Even drug trials aren't the real world.
KittyWampus
Apr 2014
#82
That's only for the first parts, then its taken out of the laboratory for things such as human...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#99
you really think big pharma could not make money out of homeopathy or ayurveda?
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#90
Yeah, they are big in the "alternative" industry, I don't understand why people...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2014
#122
When politics determines which science is valid, then "Houston...we have a problem".
Zorra
Apr 2014
#324
Because there are too many times in my medical life when the answer is no one knows.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2014
#140
Agreed 110%. Body chemistry is sufficiently different from person to person
riderinthestorm
Apr 2014
#168
My sister coded (died) during a colonoscopy. Destroyed her liver and kidneys.
riderinthestorm
Apr 2014
#180
This is why the public, an educated public, might have little faith in science.
kwassa
Apr 2014
#191
What are these areas of scientific investigation in which you claim the practitioners
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#194
I am not suggesting an alternative. I am pointing out why alternative thinking is popular.
kwassa
Apr 2014
#231
I'd say it's mostly the result of poor science curricula in the schools and universities
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#243
The entire point of a "university" used to be to produce well-rounded graduates
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#273
My experience with the students I taught while in graduate school was sobering.
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#275
I accept the scientific method as the best means we have for understanding the material universe
Crunchy Frog
Apr 2014
#197
It is a stretch of the imagination to think that big pharma follows the "scientific method".
randr
Apr 2014
#216
yet, amazingly a large part of these studies come from research universities and not big pharma. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#224
Since the early 90's, public research funding for American and Canadian universities
Maedhros
Apr 2014
#234
There's a conflict between belief in the scientific method and appeals to authority.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2014
#221
either you believe in being self righteous and condescending or you don't.
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2014
#230
I find it odd that you associate anti-vaxxers and homeopathy with liberals.
RedCappedBandit
Apr 2014
#242
no, i associate the hypocrisy with liberals (condemning and exalting science, when convenient)
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2014
#247
What about the trilas which have not undergone the scientific method study
darkangel218
Apr 2014
#302
Its the placebo treatment which has been found to help a number of afflictions .
darkangel218
Apr 2014
#321
Because frankly all the other "natural" treatments are too crazy to get into.
NuclearDem
Apr 2014
#322
i am kicking this since i dont want to say it again, and we are on this topic
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2014
#328