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[iverglas]

33. one for you, now

Any thoughts on this event?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=68076&mesg_id=68129

iverglas
Wed Jun-30-04 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #22

23. here's a fun one

http://www.hellinahandbasket.net/archives/001214.html

It reproduces the message in question and makes idiotic comments about it, these being the only reasons I link to such tripe.

Here's the message:

Dear members of the Pink Pistols,

This is official notice and response to the email below that I received today.

NO FIREARMS, LOADED OR UNLOADED, CONCEALED OR EXPOSED WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE PARADE LINE-UP, THE PRIDE PARADE, NOR THE PRIDE FESTIVAL.

Should anyone bring a firearm this Stonewall Columbus event, the firearm will be confiscated and not returned and the individual will be rejected from the event. I have notified all Pride Committee members and co-chairs and I will also alert all security personnel and the police.

I appreciate your group but we at Stonewall Columbus cannot allow any opportunity for violence to occur, intentional or unintentional. There will also be no solicited like you did last year, if so, you will be aske to leave. It is past the deadline for a booth but we will be happy to sell you a booth space. If you want a space to distribute your literature and to sign up members, email Michael Dutcher at (snip)

This may seem severe to you but it is nothing more than an attempt to keep all people safe and afford them the opportunity to have the most fun they can have on Saturday. I would greatly appreciate all of your members being notified immediately, so that you can make alternative plans.

Sincerely, Kate Anderson, Executive Director, Stonewall Columbus

And here's the idiotic commentary (my emphasis):

In past years, the parade organizers have tolerated a group of people who belonged to NAMBLA. They said that as long as they weren't actually engaged in pedophilia then it wouldn't have been right to exclude them from the festivities.

So now we know that the gay community thinks that people who advocate lawful gun ownership are worse than people who advocate pedophilia. Just beyond belief.

Beyond belief indeed.

That someone would copy and paste the actual relevant bit of info -- that the group/individuals s/he finds distasteful ARE NOT ENGAGING in the behaviour in question -- and then disregard it in favour of making the false claim that the organizers "think" that a group/individuals who ARE ENGAGING in the behaviour in question in their case, i.e. CARRYING WEAPONS, *not* "advocating" ANYTHING, are "worse" than the former group.

Lies, lies, damned lies.

The parade is on public property, so I don't think the CCW laws allow them to 'disallow' attending armed, though it might be included in the parade permit.

Well, fuckin' duh, fuckin' eh?

Parade organizers who are unable to ensure compliance with the conditions of their permit aren't too likely to get a permit next year.

A personal account of the upshot:

Long story short.. the police came, they didn't know what to do either, we talked with them after they'd huddled for a bit and eventually agreed (with the police) that we'd allow ourselves to be escorted off the park property.. instead of being taken to jail for criminal trespassing. It was the only thing they could come up with.. it was such a nice day..we didn't really want to spend it in jail, but I think it was a bluff.. something to do with open carry at an "event" even if it was in a "public" space. It didn't fit the Section 9 thing, since we were openly carrying and the park wasn't posted. The police were great. Sympathetic, agreeable, sorry that we had to suffer through this horrible HB 12 CCW thing.. etc. So, we took our .45 airgun, and my empty .380 (yes, we were such a threat) and left. It's not over. A bunch of us will be filing a suit against Stonewall. For what yet? Don't know, ...

If I were a cop policing a community event and having to remove troublemakers, I think I'd make an effort to be agreeable too. That's called good policing.

Oh, and here we have part of what had disappeared from the pseudo-pinkos' site:

Ohio Pink Pistols Threatened, Ordered to Surrender Firearms at Rally

"Initially three, then later, four members of the Central Ohio Pink Pistols, a group promoting the safe handling of firearms in the GLBT community, were threatened by the Executive Director of Stonewall Columbus, who wielded a 2-foot club, and up to 30 volunteer security personnel at the Stonewall Columbus Pride Event on Saturday, June 26. The Pink Pistols were repeatedly ordered to surrender their legally-owned and carried firearms by a steadily-growing army of guards. Knowing the law was on their side, the Pink Pistols refused to surrender their property or knuckle under to illegal threats of violence, search, and seizure by Stonewall Columbus personnel. Police were summoned at Pink Pistols request. No firearms were surrendered or confiscated, and no arrests were made, as no laws were broken."

Or no firearms were surrendered or confiscated, and no arrests were made, as it was a full moon that night ... whatever.

Nice folks, eh?

Which group would you have been with there?