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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
70. sorry, but again
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012

I was speaking to someone else. That doesn't mean that you're not welcome to reply, by any means! It just means to be careful that you don't take remarks addressed to someone else as being meant for you. Look at the thread list at the top, or the "response to" link in the upper right of the post you're reading at any time, to follow the sequence.

I apologize for the broken links -- they are all part of material I have quoted that was posted on this board years ago. They worked at the time; I can only offer my word on that.

Since what you're referring to was excerpted from the Pink Pistols own candidate-rating documents -- the questionnaire, responses and commentary -- I'm afraid that you'd be the one to have to find them, not me. Lost in time I guess they are, though.

Pink Pistols doesn't really seem to have a functioning website at present? No, wait, I had to allow a bunch of javascript and wait for it to finish blipping.
http://www.pinkpistols.org/

Links

Gun Related Links . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Geeks With Guns
Tyrrany Response Team
Gun Owners Action League
Second Amendment Sisters
Keep and Bear Arms.com
Armed Females of America
Ethics from the Barrel of a Gun
Second Amendmendment Foundation
World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners
Outright Libertarians
NRA Homepage

Additional Links and Information . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Racist Origins of Gun Control
Arming Women Against Rape and Endagerment
Protecting the 2nd Amendment is a GLBT Rights issue
Protecting the 2nd Amendment is a GLBT Rights issue (flier, PDF File)
Article that inspired the name “Pink Pistols”
Ethics of Firepower
Hate-Crime Myth
Free State Project
Integrity In Service

Just the standard right-wing (and racist and misogynist) horseshit, from what I see.

Am I missing the links to LGBT organizations / causes?


Ah, I see the mention of hate crimes in "about us".

The Pink Pistols came into existence because of problem of “hate crimes”. While “hate crimes” may target certain groups, they undermine the “human rights” of all, because if we tolerate violence against any one group, we tolerate violence against all.

Allow me to boast a little more -- I forgot to mention this, an amendment (the bolded part below) also sponsored by Svend Robinson who was my choice for leader of my poliitical party (unfortunately, we had a delegate system then, and my riding association was hijacked by supporters of the establishment candidate who won all the delegate seats on a 50%+1 majority vote, including the final space when I made the plea to select me as the last delegate as one little tiny bit of evidence of good faith toward the long-time members there):

http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-c-46/latest/rsc-1985-c-c-46.html

Criminal Code of Canada
Other sentencing principles

718.2 A court that imposes a sentence shall also take into consideration the following principles:

(a) a sentence should be increased or reduced to account for any relevant aggravating or mitigating circumstances relating to the offence or the offender, and, without limiting the generality of the foregoing,

(i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or any other similar factor, ...

Does the Pink Pistols actually engage in any political activity to counter hate crimes, e.g. by lobbying for inclusion of sexual orientation in such legislation where it exists?

Many straight people also oppose “hate crimes” because they too see “hate crimes” for what they are, “human rights violations”. As such, the Pink Pistols has and will continue to have “Gay-Straight Alliances” because our lives depend on it. Many gun rights leaders have committed to help us grow and will open doors for us to help grow our chapters because they too recognize that self defense is a fundamental human right for all. Our “Pink Pistol” chapters offer us the opportunity to help each other.

Any gay-gay alliances you could mention then? Between Pink Pistols and any other LGBT organization you might name?

Time to go out and get me a latte :) n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #1
That's what I did yesterday! BlueIris Mar 2012 #25
NATURALLY! What'd the f*****s expect? elleng Mar 2012 #2
Buycott!!! bluestateguy Mar 2012 #3
Done! Snarkaholic Mar 2012 #10
Why is everybody picking on Starbucks? sarisataka Mar 2012 #4
you're thinking of something called Pink Pistols iverglas Mar 2012 #6
Well... sarisataka Mar 2012 #7
Please don't insult John Lennon Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #19
I do not know Mr. Lennon's sarisataka Mar 2012 #81
Yes, and I'm pretty sure it was a world without guns in the streets. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #83
I wanted to let you point that out sarisataka Mar 2012 #87
Imagine complete sentences Kolesar Mar 2012 #124
Subject, verb, predicate sarisataka Mar 2012 #128
I that how you feel? "Nothing to kill or die for" Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #125
It is a wonderful ideal sarisataka Mar 2012 #129
Thanks for sharing. Interesting. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #130
"But we do not live in a world of wonderful people" sarisataka Mar 2012 #131
The Pink Pistols DougKrick Mar 2012 #11
Oleg Volk has been here before you ... iverglas Mar 2012 #14
Thanks for the heads-up! DougKrick Mar 2012 #24
FYI. William769 Mar 2012 #16
Right there with you obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #23
one for you, now iverglas Mar 2012 #33
The gun toters DougKrick Mar 2012 #43
sorry, I was actually speaking to the other poster iverglas Mar 2012 #48
Good for you! DougKrick Mar 2012 #52
fascinating iverglas Mar 2012 #30
Ask all the questions you want. That does not mean though to expect an answer. William769 Mar 2012 #32
and we all know what I think iverglas Mar 2012 #36
Wha?!? DougKrick Mar 2012 #50
Ask Away DougKrick Mar 2012 #49
sorry, but again iverglas Mar 2012 #70
News and Organization regarding the Pink Pistols. DougKrick Mar 2012 #74
How would you answer this argument against Libertarians? ellisonz Mar 2012 #17
Good toon. nt rrneck Mar 2012 #20
Yeah I mean, by promoting the Libertarian Party... ellisonz Mar 2012 #22
I'm fairly sanguine about the politics of it. rrneck Mar 2012 #28
bwahahaha iverglas Mar 2012 #73
Those are the people who develop libertarian ideology. rrneck Mar 2012 #85
Wha?!? DougKrick Mar 2012 #31
I think you and I may have met. Ian David Mar 2012 #35
It's possible DougKrick Mar 2012 #56
I know, it was already planned. And then when we got there, the shooting range was packed... Ian David Mar 2012 #59
Not me DougKrick Mar 2012 #64
I was at the one in Attleboro (or North Attleboro). n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #66
It's possible DougKrick Mar 2012 #77
It might have been a .44 magnum, not a .357. I remember it had bullets the size of my thumb. Ian David Mar 2012 #78
Oh yeah! DougKrick Mar 2012 #99
What rights would the Democratic Party take away from you? ellisonz Mar 2012 #37
Who was trying to disqualify military absentee ballots? one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #45
That was a good ad. DougKrick Mar 2012 #63
found something!! iverglas Mar 2012 #42
Yeah, he's a Republican DougKrick Mar 2012 #67
How would I answer this? DougKrick Mar 2012 #26
Actually the have a lot to do with eachother... ellisonz Mar 2012 #29
More corrections... DougKrick Mar 2012 #39
" The Pink Pistols *ARE* a Second Amendment extremist organization." ellisonz Mar 2012 #46
We need to talk definitions DougKrick Mar 2012 #71
So, how did we get from a discussion of Starbucks and NOM to one on guns? Ian David Mar 2012 #75
You just declared yourself an extremist... ellisonz Mar 2012 #88
Extremist viewpoints DougKrick Mar 2012 #97
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. ellisonz Mar 2012 #107
Constitutionallity and Firearms DougKrick Mar 2012 #117
Thank you for acknowledging... ellisonz Mar 2012 #120
as I've asked you to do iverglas Mar 2012 #92
Err.. wait, lol.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #94
what do you think "opposing" an amendment means? iverglas Mar 2012 #111
You're not fooling anyone. X_Digger Mar 2012 #114
The List DougKrick Mar 2012 #102
no, sorry again iverglas Mar 2012 #110
Pesent facts! DougKrick Mar 2012 #133
you say it like it's a bad thing iverglas Mar 2012 #53
Actually yes. DougKrick Mar 2012 #80
Huh?!? DougKrick Mar 2012 #105
not really all that confusing iverglas Mar 2012 #123
More bad info DougKrick Mar 2012 #134
That's a shallow misreading of anarchist theory. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #51
there are different varieties, but you're right iverglas Mar 2012 #58
In the ideal, yes... ellisonz Mar 2012 #61
In application it becomes preserving the organization TBF Mar 2012 #76
I would argue that... ellisonz Mar 2012 #91
My point on Occupy is TBF Mar 2012 #93
Fair assessment. ellisonz Mar 2012 #96
Of course TBF Mar 2012 #100
But.. but.. but.. he doesn't have a cartoon for that!!! n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #95
... TBF Mar 2012 #104
I've got a political cartoons for everything... ellisonz Mar 2012 #109
Brilliant! Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #27
Good toon. geardaddy Mar 2012 #62
I forgot to ask iverglas Mar 2012 #38
Nope DougKrick Mar 2012 #40
Don't go telling people information like that LOL snooper2 Mar 2012 #69
in case you are interested you are being discussed over here: Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #41
Looks like they're getting the torches and pitchforks ready... -..__... Mar 2012 #47
I am not understanding how it is on topic for RKBA. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #55
No... -..__... Mar 2012 #60
pretty tacky, if you ask me. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #65
Pitiful... just pitiful... -..__... Mar 2012 #68
who reads the Guns forum? iverglas Mar 2012 #82
you know its The Gungeon! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #84
Never occured to you that some of us... -..__... Mar 2012 #86
snork iverglas Mar 2012 #89
Opinion does not equal fact. -..__... Mar 2012 #101
uh, what? iverglas Mar 2012 #103
Computer or Firefox is acting up. -..__... Mar 2012 #108
wants to be read; it's short iverglas Mar 2012 #116
deleted, posted in wrong place iverglas Mar 2012 #113
Based on his politics at the time... DougKrick Mar 2012 #132
some new names in this thread after that was posted iverglas Mar 2012 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author -..__... Mar 2012 #79
Jury is back... Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #98
I see you've found us! iverglas Mar 2012 #106
Either way... ellisonz Mar 2012 #115
LOL! You know I avoid these threads like the plague. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #127
Jury nullified... ellisonz Mar 2012 #112
I deleted it for you. -..__... Mar 2012 #118
Thank you. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #119
Sorry about that. -..__... Mar 2012 #121
... ellisonz Mar 2012 #122
And with that... -..__... Mar 2012 #126
good news, I own stock that went down to $14 in the crash n now is more than I paid for it :-) nt msongs Mar 2012 #5
Good. Nt xchrom Mar 2012 #8
I usually get my coffee on the inside rucky Mar 2012 #9
Now all businesses will want a boycott by those folks mainer Mar 2012 #12
Between gun rights and gay rights hack89 Mar 2012 #13
Backwards-thinking homophobes don't generally drink coffee at cafe's Quantess Mar 2012 #15
When will the NOM shut the fuck up?? What a truly evil group. Initech Mar 2012 #18
All people against LGBT equality & rights William769 Mar 2012 #21
I don't really like their coffee, but bought one anyway closeupready Mar 2012 #34
I suspect that most NOM members drink beer anyways Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #44
NOM has been race-baiting, too. New documents just released by court order: yardwork Mar 2012 #54
NOM? geardaddy Mar 2012 #57
Looks like someone is Nomming NOM's lunch. GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #90
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