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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
19. Excellent question
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mar 2012

There doesn't seem to be any reasonable restrictions when it comes to buying guns that aren't immediately denounced as profoundly dangerous to the 2nd Amendment RKBA but the same group of people don't have any problems with disrespecting the other Amendments to our Constitution and see nothing dangerous about big government forcing themselves into womens vaginas and people's bedrooms in general. And their concern about "big government" getting in between patients and their doctors hits the hypocrisy jackpot, particularly when they pass laws telling doctors what to do and what they can/can't tell their female patients about their pregnancies. Where is the AMA and other medical organizations when it comes to these kind of laws? Some of them loudly denounced ACA but seem noticeably silent about these other kinds of REAL intrusions on their practice of medicine.

I'd also like to know why Republicans think it's an abomination that the government can require people to purchase health insurance but then turn around and force women seeking a LEGAL abortion to have purchase a separate and totally UNNECESSARY medical procedure (i.e. ultrasound). I know that they probably have some convoluted logic to explain it but it just seems more than a tad hypocritical to me. The Republican Party and its supporters and allies are nothing if not a plethora of contradictions IMHO.

k and r +1 gazillion niyad Mar 2012 #1
Only a gazillion? I'll see that and double it! RC Mar 2012 #7
"connection between the number of killing machines and the killings" DonP Mar 2012 #20
Actually, no there is no correlation.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #27
(figurative) UNREC appal_jack Mar 2012 #46
completely unrelated topics james_madison Mar 2012 #98
Have you tried getting a gun in Illinois lately...??? truebrit71 Mar 2012 #2
and isn't that the whole point of the OP? niyad Mar 2012 #4
The OP was making the point that is easier to get a gun than an abortion... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #78
no kpete Mar 2012 #5
Kinda hard to hit a target at 25 yards with a flower though.... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #79
There's a 10-day wait to buy a gun in my state slackmaster Mar 2012 #3
are there time-sensitive issues in owning a gun? niyad Mar 2012 #6
sometimes... belcffub Mar 2012 #8
Ask the women who has just put a restraining order on an abusive husband. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #9
And she better hope and pray... -..__... Mar 2012 #39
Is she forced to wait in a public courtyard until the gun paperwork clears? Kolesar Mar 2012 #57
Yes... -..__... Mar 2012 #74
Yes there are. RC Mar 2012 #11
Not usually, but why should someone have to wait to exercise ANY civil right? slackmaster Mar 2012 #12
"civil right" one of the gun crazies favorite words lately Kolesar Mar 2012 #58
You have it exactly backwards. The slaves' ability to excercise freedom was delayed. slackmaster Mar 2012 #68
What other kind of right does the Bill of Rights contain? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #76
Are Constitutional Rights time-sensitive? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #21
That's the other word! eom Kolesar Mar 2012 #59
What other word? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #73
Are there? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #23
But I'm angry now! NT EOTE Mar 2012 #25
Ask the woman with the violent stalker. nt TheWraith Mar 2012 #32
Would there be a reason Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #36
Yes, you can get a restratining order, and the cops will tell you to call them if he violates it. X_Digger Mar 2012 #37
So Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #47
You seemed to suggest that the best recourse was calling the police. X_Digger Mar 2012 #48
^Pernicious and loaded misstatement of the public safety issue Kolesar Mar 2012 #60
Firearms purchased through an FFL at a gun show as one example -..__... Mar 2012 #42
Hunting seasons are time limited. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #33
Getting a gun does not mean you are killing/terminating someone or something The Straight Story Mar 2012 #10
I remember talking with a pro-gun friend about this el_bryanto Mar 2012 #13
To quote Homer Simpson: mac56 Mar 2012 #34
There is a 7 day waiting period to buy any gun in Rhode Island hack89 Mar 2012 #14
In Nassau County it takes 11.5 Months for the interview OPOS Mar 2012 #15
In OK (& probably lots of other redneck states) you can buy a gun at an estate sale or gunshow kath Mar 2012 #16
I guess you could call those 'back alley' gun purchases (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2012 #18
In Colorado there is a CBI background check when buying a gun at a gunshow or from a dealer. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #22
Seriously? "Redneck States".... aptal Mar 2012 #26
Southern bashing is acceptable and sometimes even encouraged on DU. obxhead Mar 2012 #30
Apparently... aptal Mar 2012 #38
Hey, I live here (OK) & I'm a liberal - an FDR/LBJ-type real Democrat, and living here sucks. Yeah, kath Mar 2012 #96
Yeah, private sales are a sticking point. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #83
Clearly the OP has never bought a gun... virginia mountainman Mar 2012 #17
Maybe we should have a 5 day waiting period before sex, a background check and paperwork. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #43
Yes clearly. obxhead Mar 2012 #51
The point is that the OP is wrong hack89 Mar 2012 #54
And you won't be happy until that number of states is zero Kolesar Mar 2012 #62
Why would I want to do that? hack89 Mar 2012 #63
Because if you are not raging about guns, you have no issues to talk about eom Kolesar Mar 2012 #65
I am not raging. No need to. hack89 Mar 2012 #70
Background checks are wonderful. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #82
obxhead kpete Mar 2012 #85
One lame sentence as a response. Kolesar Mar 2012 #61
do kpete Mar 2012 #84
Excellent question Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #19
+1,000 freshwest Mar 2012 #92
because you cant do an abortion with a gun bart95 Mar 2012 #24
I saw 100,000 or more people (always bad guys) blown away with guns by age 10. How many abortions? saras Mar 2012 #28
(Media is pretend.) Remmah2 Mar 2012 #41
Wow. Worked real hard on that one, didn't you? Kolesar Mar 2012 #66
Got it. freshwest Mar 2012 #93
They want to control women. obxhead Mar 2012 #29
This is a false dichotomy. Both should be easy for law-abiding people to obtain. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #31
Word! Amazing the number of people that want to control others' rights, and then act hurt... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #90
Why? Because **MEN** WANT THEM. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #35
Why does Zimmerman look so neat in the video, and why do the police JDPriestly Mar 2012 #40
Women should have a right to choose in either case. nt Remmah2 Mar 2012 #44
And Why Is Buying A Gun Easier Than Registering To Vote DallasNE Mar 2012 #45
More irony. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #99
Do you have to have a criminal background check MicaelS Mar 2012 #49
Agree gopiscrap Mar 2012 #50
Obviously, Linda has not actually bought a gun Travelman Mar 2012 #52
Because the gun nuts............ Swede Atlanta Mar 2012 #53
I believe in a woman's right to choose and the 2A hack89 Mar 2012 #72
Which is why 3rd graders don't make these decisions. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #80
Is that ALL gun nuts, or just the republican ones? I wanted to see just how big that broom was... truebrit71 Mar 2012 #81
+10000000 cliffordu Mar 2012 #55
I wish right wing legislators would turn their ire toward NRA and other right wing gun organizations Hoyt Mar 2012 #56
The right wing only succeeds with divisive scary issues like guns. Kolesar Mar 2012 #64
Good thing the year is still young. montanto Mar 2012 #67
Because they are pro fetus NOT pro life! n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Mar 2012 #71
Everyone in this thread who thinks that enduring a waiting period before buying their next sudopod Mar 2012 #75
There is no comparison - you are right. hack89 Mar 2012 #77
I am 100% pro-choice... Papagoose Mar 2012 #86
SIMPLE - MEN GET WHAT THEY WANT AND WOMEN UNFORTUNATELY DON'T fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #87
Oh the irony. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #97
Because the NRA/GOP/Top 1% wants more guns in the hands of more of the 99%. baldguy Mar 2012 #88
because people who NEED guns are speshulllll fascisthunter Mar 2012 #89
"Why are *our* civil rights being infringed"? Perhaps because you're willing to infringe "those... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #91
Isn't it possible to get an abortion @ <18 without parental consent in lots of places? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #94
Any one who wants to buy a gun should be required to bend over and try to shove their head up their MADem Mar 2012 #95
Why would anyone believe that obvious lie? Taitertots Mar 2012 #100
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