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In reply to the discussion: The cure for privilege. [View all]BainsBane
(54,298 posts)50. That is precisely what you have done.
In mocking this issue and insisting there is something illegitimate about using the term white privilege.
You're right. I don't give a rats ass about petty affectations and ideologies worn as social plumage . . A lot of good people on the left died for it and it barely gets a mention around here now.
What you care about matters. What members of color care about is social plumage.
I am suggesting that the best thing for human beings of any color to do is to actually try and accomplish a shared goal. Build a house. Dig a ditch. Plow a field. Trade goods. That's how humans learn to get along.
It's not enough to tell those members what words they should use, but now you tell them what they should do. You may care about ditches, fields, and unions. They care about racism. You aren't going to be involved in any shared goal as long as you continue to insult their concerns as "social plumage."
The very worst way to get people to treat each other fairly is to tell others how they are supposed to feel and excoriate them if they don't seem to do so to your satisfaction.
None of this is about excoriating anyone. My OP was written so even a child could understand it, and I clearly made the point the term was not an attack. You continue to feel the entire issue is all about blaming you because you refuse to consider the existence of speech about which you are not at its center. The discussion of white privilege is about understanding daily racism and treating members of subaltern groups with respect, as the website I linked to demonstrates.
Istrongblack man speaks to the very issue of shared goals here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4925485
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I got a problem with thinking singing Kumbaya and pretending White male privilege doesn't exist
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#9
You cannot have a solution to a problem before you admit that there is one....
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#131
I never professed to have the solution....unlike certain White men who deny White Male Privilege
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#137
Actually they had the nerve to tell white men how they as people of color feel
BainsBane
May 2014
#17
I am really disappointed that you posted this (and yes, I realize that you d/won't care)
etherealtruth
May 2014
#10
Ah, there you have it. The privileged will determine how, why, when and where coalitions
R B Garr
May 2014
#134
I doubt there are any simple solutions, in reality. But thank you for trying at least. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#20
I just wish more white people would acknowledge what, for PoC, are self-evident facts of life.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#28
It's not even about individual "dislike," although that certainly does play a role.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#41
I assumed nothing. I asked you straight out. and I said IF and Then. =
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#76
I did not realize you were merely pontificating and making an observation on the state of things.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#80