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In reply to the discussion: The cure for privilege. [View all]pipi_k
(21,020 posts)59. This, I think...
The very worst way to get people to treat each other fairly is to tell others how they are supposed to feel and excoriate them if they don't seem to do so to your satisfaction.
is probably something not everyone is going to understand
And there are times when I think that some people who yell the loudest about this or that issue don't really want it to go away. Especially when it looks like they're mainly just spinning their wheels, thinking they're Doing Good or Changing Our World doing things that aren't going to amount to much more than a pisshole in a snowbank at the end of the day.
People want to end racism? OK, you don't do that by pointing your finger at them when they tell a racist joke. You do it by putting people together so they see for themselves that we're all just human, with the same fears and needs and hopes and dreams. Have them work together to accomplish a common goal, and watch how things change then. Or maybe not. I mean, not everyone is going to get along on a personal level, but there's a real good chance that people will see that this or that person of a different race is just like himself in the long run.
One thing that always sort of turns my stomach in a way...is when people get on their high horses and brag about what they've done to save the world. "Look at MEEEEE!!!!! This is what I did!!! If you didn't do the same thing, then you're a nothing. In fact, you're part of the problem!!!"
Like you pointed out...you don't get cooperation from people by trying to make them feel like shit.
And here's the thing about people doing good in the world...I would rather find out by accident that someone is doing good things in the world than by self-righteous advertising.
I have a lot of respect for people who quietly go about their business of trying to help others without having a need to wear their actions like a badge of honor for other people to prostrate themselves in front of.
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I got a problem with thinking singing Kumbaya and pretending White male privilege doesn't exist
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#9
You cannot have a solution to a problem before you admit that there is one....
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#131
I never professed to have the solution....unlike certain White men who deny White Male Privilege
VanillaRhapsody
May 2014
#137
Actually they had the nerve to tell white men how they as people of color feel
BainsBane
May 2014
#17
I am really disappointed that you posted this (and yes, I realize that you d/won't care)
etherealtruth
May 2014
#10
Ah, there you have it. The privileged will determine how, why, when and where coalitions
R B Garr
May 2014
#134
I doubt there are any simple solutions, in reality. But thank you for trying at least. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#20
I just wish more white people would acknowledge what, for PoC, are self-evident facts of life.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#28
It's not even about individual "dislike," although that certainly does play a role.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#41
I assumed nothing. I asked you straight out. and I said IF and Then. =
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#76
I did not realize you were merely pontificating and making an observation on the state of things.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#80