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In reply to the discussion: Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]TBF
(32,056 posts)18. So you'd like us to provide classified CIA docs?
Yeah, that's gonna happen. All we can do is point to history and the facts that have come out AFTER attempted coups - like the Bay of Pigs debacle.
We could also site Russian sources but you'll automatically dismiss them. This is an exercise in futility.
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Wanted: Proof that what happened in Ukraine actually constituted a "western sponsored coup." [View all]
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
OP
He feared for his life so much he took all day packing up his oil paintings and antique furniture?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#22
Your first half of your post actually seemed to make a little sense....
go west young man
May 2014
#130
I have no clue what your military time has to do with your right to speak your mind.
NCTraveler
May 2014
#104
I don't bellieve your claims. You are making a big mistake in your writing that someone with your
okaawhatever
May 2014
#57
Maybe you could form a committee to get to the bottom of these unAmerican activities.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#59
I'm not going to hold my breath for this Tommy. Unless you take RT or RU a a source I don't
okaawhatever
May 2014
#8
No, it's a guy running from failure. (something Putin did not approve of) As Matthew Henry said:
okaawhatever
May 2014
#67
Then if there's no proof, as you say, perhaps you might want to refrain from jumping to conclusions.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#19
So you have no evidence that shows Yanukovych was forcibly removed by a small group?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#33
It's inane to speculate on CIA documents that you don't know to even exist.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#44
I'm not denying that what happened wasn't "regime change" or even a "revolution"...
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#30
But first let's talk about how that 'majority' came to be the majority, via ethnic cleansing...
Bluenorthwest
May 2014
#38
Of course you're not demanding proof. You clearly haven't provided any proof of your own assertions.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#73
Except that doesn't account for the lack of force or urgency surrounding his departure.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#43
"There was still a Parliament that could have ran the institutions and even negotiate on behalf..."
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#50
When Marcos fled the Philippines in 1986 he was not impeached after he left. He was replaced.
pampango
May 2014
#53
"This isn't a case where the vast majority of the nation wanted the guy gone."
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#75
Russian interference in Ukraine is quite tangible. US interference not as much.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#79
On 2/20 parliament voted 236-2 to condemn the violence, ban the use of weapons against protesters,
pampango
May 2014
#42
The video showed a very calm and orderly packing process for Yanukovych on February 21st.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#45
It was not the way the government was supposed to be changed. There were rules.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2014
#58
Except leaders typically don't pack up their oil paintings and leave the country, either.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#62
Part of the problem was the Constitution was basically designed to not allow impeachment to
okaawhatever
May 2014
#69
Laws, really. And Putin is to blame for those Ukrainian Protestors/Insurgents/Freedom Fighters
KoKo
May 2014
#85
And we all knew that Gerald Ford was illegitimate because he was unelected. nt
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#110
Related Washington Post article: What did Yanukovych take with him as he fled his mansion?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#74
You Insult what you call a "fair handful of people" then want them to prove something
KoKo
May 2014
#84
But the "western sponsored coup" narrative is by its very nature a conspiracy theory.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#113
Well...you could do some background reading by reporters familiar with the situation
KoKo
May 2014
#117
114 Replies (before mine) and nothing in the same universe as proof offered.
stevenleser
May 2014
#115
***Something just floored me about the timeline of events that I didn't realize before.***
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#137