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In reply to the discussion: The Unbearable Whiteness of the American Left [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)For the RWNJs, their 'pets' are the fetus and they've made a cult out of worshipping it in their own twisted way, while gleefully promoting the death of the spirit of freedom and joy (if not the body as well) for their mothers and fathers and them, when born. They long for the day when those who they shaft on a daily basis are so weak they can deliver all forms of biblical revenge on them and the planet.
The same thing goes for the Libertarian method of inspiring F.U.D. among Democrats, their prime enemy and most hated opponent. They cannot resist showing their ire. Their 'pets' are the 4A and other memes, which never did affect women and POC, as we saw in the Dred Scott decision. It took a Civil War, the 14th, 15th, 16th and 19th amendment to begin to address the injustices of centuries of American society, business and government.
On the alleged Left, an amorphous group that's hard to define due to infiltration, there are segments that find fault with Obama and blacks as they have worked their way to success in varied tiers of government work. Due to private sector discrimination, they had to go into government work and they are accused of being willing to go along with alleged authoritarian measures for survival.
Thus come cries that all government is tyranny as they don't feel part of it now Some whites reject unions, public workers and government since they can no longer thrive in that enviroment with the compeition. So they wantto privatize all things to allow them to keep prosperous therough a system of nepotism and crony capitalism. These are in all parties.
The fact that the private sector did not grant civil rights, and it took big and aggressive government, to the point of conquering a large number of states to expand on the 4A and the rest of the Bill of Rights (which only delineated behavior among the rulers of the day, white, male property owners, not women or blacks) is utterly ignored. With RW propaganda soaking into all sides, government and POC are seen as a part of a collectivist evil.
The alleged Left (as we cannot truly know who is who, and are confined to subjective, not objective definitions as we've seen it break down into tribes) is partly falling into white anarchism, of a gentler type than Libertarians and Tealibans, but none the less, does not have any interest in the struggle of POC in their daily lives. Because of the evil state that POC and woman count on to defend their rights against the rest.
This threads, like the ones on feminism, must then be relentlessly trolled:
Concern troll
A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[38]
An example of this occurred in 2006 when Tad Furtado, a staffer for then-Congressman Charles Bass (R-NH), was caught posing as a "concerned" supporter of Bass' opponent, Democrat Paul Hodes, on several liberal New Hampshire blogs, using the pseudonyms "IndieNH" or "IndyNH". "IndyNH" expressed concern that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable.[39][40] Hodes eventually won the election.
Although the term "concern troll" originated in discussions of online behavior, it now sees increasing use to describe similar behaviors that take place offline. For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair accused a conservative New York Daily News columnist of "concern troll" behavior in his efforts to downplay the Mark Foley scandal. Wolcott links what he calls concern trolls to what Saul Alinsky calls "Do-Nothings", giving a long quote from Alinsky on the Do-Nothings' method and effects:
These Do-Nothings profess a commitment to social change for ideals of justice, equality, and opportunity, and then abstain from and discourage all effective action for change. They are known by their brand, 'I agree with your ends but not your means'.[41]
The Hill published an op-ed piece by Markos Moulitsas of the liberal blog Daily Kos titled "Dems: Ignore 'Concern Trolls'". The concern trolls in question were not Internet participants; they were Republicans offering public advice and warnings to the Democrats. The author defines "concern trolling" as "offering a poisoned apple in the form of advice to political opponents that, if taken, would harm the recipient".[42]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concern_trolling#Concern_troll
I've found a dearth of POC in political venues for more than one reason. The main one is poverty or work that demands virtually the entire life of th worker. Politics was once regarded as the intellectual property of the leisure class. They treat POC and women as interesing novelities and not serious thinkers.
Poverty and its creator, discrimination, as much as law (and outright intimidation such as the night riders used when law did not suit their purpose) is a highly effective way to eliminate participation of POC, and the demands of work and parenting that falls upon women also knocks them out of the game.
As to the failure to be inclusive in this meetup, I consider it the result of segregation in the lives of the individuals in general and unmet needs that are greater than what the conference was about. After the repeated affronts that POC, women and any of the 'others' like the disabled are subjected to on a regular basis IRL, in media and online boards, the 'Welcome' mat has clearly been removed.