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JDPriestly

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22. Jefferson, who was the victim of much false gossip printed by irresponsible newspapers,
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 03:37 PM
Jun 2014

complained about the lies that were printed in the press, but absolutely defended the freedom of the press. He stated over and over that the laws protecting us from slander and libel are all we need. Beyond that the court, (the magistrate) should leave the press alone.

There is a long computer page of quotes from Jefferson explaining that without absolute freedom of the press, we have no freedom for individuals.

"Considering [the] great importance to the public liberty [of the freedom of the press], and the difficulty of submitting it to very precise rules, the laws have thought it less mischievous to give greater scope to its freedom than to the restraint of it." --Thomas Jefferson to the Spanish Commissioners, 1793. ME 9:165

"It is so difficult to draw a clear line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press, that as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth and falsehood. And hitherto the public judgment has performed that office with wonderful correctness." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803. ME 10:356

"Printing presses shall be free except as to false facts published maliciously either to injure the reputation of another (whether followed by pecuniary damages or not) or to expose him to the punishment of the law." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes for a Constitution, 1794.

"Printing presses shall be subject to no other restraint than liableness to legal prosecution for false facts printed and published." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft of Virginia Constitution, 1783. ME 2:298, Papers 6:304

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/thomasjefferson/jeff1600.htm

Our government is not supposed to keep so many secrets from us. The Founding Fathers (maybe with the exception of Adams) would be turning over in their graves today if they knew how our government keeps secrets from the American people.

“Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.”
Abraham Lincoln

“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”
Patrick Henry

http://www.georgeafb.info/quotes-on-government-secrecy/

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James Risen and the matter of Wen Ho Lee [View all] struggle4progress Jun 2014 OP
If it was all about Risen, if he was the ONLY reporter to ever have the ability to report on sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #1
Unfortunately, you are right in my view. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #2
Courts do not get classified material Leme Jun 2014 #5
That is simply not correct. Courts can and do get classified material all the time. msanthrope Jun 2014 #7
perhaps I should have said Leme Jun 2014 #8
No...that's not correct at all. Witnesses who will testify as to classified matters msanthrope Jun 2014 #9
hmmm. well I saw a case quoted here that seemed to indicate otherwise Leme Jun 2014 #10
Why not find the case/cite? Then I can comment as to the specific issue. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #11
I think it has o do with this..wiki Leme Jun 2014 #12
You do realize this only applies to civil cases, right? Not criminal. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #26
many various "this" in thread, I don't know which this you refer to Leme Jun 2014 #27
But Congress shall pass no law abridging the freedom of the press. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #19
we may be close in our thinking, but Leme Jun 2014 #21
See my post #22. It's tough, but we have to respect the freedom of the press and it has to be JDPriestly Jun 2014 #24
in a case of imminent crime Leme Jun 2014 #25
Precedents for compelling testimony of US journalists in court struggle4progress Jun 2014 #3
See my post # 19. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #20
When the accusations are false Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #4
I've referenced the shred job Risen did on Lee before, as have you. That he went to msanthrope Jun 2014 #6
for me, hero or not Leme Jun 2014 #13
But blanket confidentiality? randome Jun 2014 #14
I did edit almost immediately, about 30 mintes ago Leme Jun 2014 #15
I guess I just missed "deadline". lol Leme Jun 2014 #16
Ha! Happens to me all the time, too! randome Jun 2014 #17
yeah, this is a discussion..not a book Leme Jun 2014 #18
Jefferson, who was the victim of much false gossip printed by irresponsible newspapers, JDPriestly Jun 2014 #22
I do not consider Risen to be a "hero." I just consider the freedom of the press to be JDPriestly Jun 2014 #23
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