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In reply to the discussion: Update 3: Heads-Up Dems !!! - This Is Why David Brat Beat Eric Cantor... [View all]saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)102. PeaceKikki, excellent example of critical thinking, brava sweet pea
"You cannot and should not ignore everything else he says, WHY he says it and ignore the fundamental incompatibility of Ayn Randian thinking with anything remotely resembling a progressive or even humane worldview. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and even the most retrograde political candidates are capable of stringing together a few ideas that make sense. Even David The Holocaust was made up by some Jewish script writer in Hollywood, Duke. Libertarians want to repeal the Civil Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act, and allow companies to discriminate in the name of free association.
And no, you cant separate the man from his movement, so dont even try.
When you support or give credence to a candidate, you indirectly empower that candidates worldview and others who hold fast to it. So when you support or even substantively praise Ron Paul, you are empowering libertarianism, and its offshoots like Ayn Rands greed is good objectivism, and all those who believe in it. You are empowering the fans of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, in which books they learn that altruism is immoral, and that only the self matters. You are empowering the reactionary, white supremacist, Social Darwinists of this culture, who believe as does Ron Paul that that Greensboro Woolworths was right, and that the police who dragged sit-in protesters off soda fountain stools for trespassing on a white mans property were justified in doing so, and that the freedom of department store owners to refuse to let black people try on clothes in their dressing rooms was more sacrosanct than the right of black people to be treated like human beings."
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Update 3: Heads-Up Dems !!! - This Is Why David Brat Beat Eric Cantor... [View all]
WillyT
Jun 2014
OP
So if that was the game changer, things really have become much more interesting. Thank you.
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#1
Is that what you took away from the info? I imagine you could see many good aspects from this
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#8
That is not the point, IF this is why he won, and he wins and does not deliver, we have learned what
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#19
We separate what he said (all lies) to what he believes, I mean what he said sounds good
randys1
Jun 2014
#79
That may very well be, but what I am concentrating on is IF he won for that purpose. If so,
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#82
And winning there would be earth shattering stuff, i wish we could figure out how to
randys1
Jun 2014
#87
We need to vet the facts out about why he won these voters over..it may be that he spewed enough
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#90
A targeted GOTV effort that identifies Dems, Independents, and moderate Repubs
tblue37
Jun 2014
#114
Nope, but he's shown us some strong evidence that America is fed up with business running gov't.
Scuba
Jun 2014
#22
This is the lesson the grass-root Democrats need to learn. Take advantage of America movement
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#88
Exactly Scuba! At least we're better than that a-hole with an (R) after his name is no longer enough
raindaddy
Jun 2014
#115
Elizabeth Warren doesn't "Jesus this" and "Jesus that" in every other sentence.
valerief
Jun 2014
#4
This is marketing -- they listen to the customer (voter) then speaks back to them in the phrases
KurtNYC
Jun 2014
#5
Most important thing to know is, is that what got him elected. If that is true, it means the
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#10
The problem with that, and I am not saying you're wrong about the Republican motive, is that their
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#33
I hear you! It is difficult to remain hopeful. Again, IF this is truly why they switched over,
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#46
Yes, that is why I feel it is critical to understand how Brat won..absolutely. n/t
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#84
I stand corrected, hatred of Gay people makes me physically angry...I cant say how much
randys1
Jun 2014
#110
"I'd like to see some Democrats campaigning on getting rid of crony capitalism." - Me Too !!!
WillyT
Jun 2014
#36
Democratic party election committee should be on the ground out there as we speak. They should be
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#17
Right now Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Chuckie Shoomer are looking to find our own CoC candidate.
Fuddnik
Jun 2014
#83
Consider how he won and why so many voters dumped the status quo..that is the important
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#27
So you are certain he did not win as a result of his anti Wall Street campaign. Ok, the OP claims
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#41
Thank you for that info. No where is there any mention that he is being attacked by Ingraham for his
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#55
He won because Cantor was such a crappy politician he ignored his district. Since
FSogol
Jun 2014
#60
That was part of if, I agree with you there. I don't want Brat to win, I want to learn for certain
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#64
totally agree--the only legitimate point is that both have genuine concerns about corporate power
spooky3
Jun 2014
#121
Are the Dems going to let the tea party steal the populist outrage from them?
tularetom
Jun 2014
#39
Of course not, the point is why the voters left the status quo behind. It leaves an opening for us
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#61
"Brat is the Elizabeth Warren of the right". BS - Warren is quite mainstream, unlike Brat, and
NorthCarolina
Jun 2014
#56
Thanks, I have been trying to get that thought across several times in this thread.
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#75
Well, the MSM proved themselves capable of not doing their duty in the lead up to Iraq.
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#117
Interesting read....Thanks! So many different explantions for Brat's Surprise win...
KoKo
Jun 2014
#77
Thanks, WillyT!!! Our candidate better have a stronger anti-MIC line, or about 95% of independents
Zorra
Jun 2014
#78
Brat also had a very racist stance against immigration reform, so theres also that.
Erose999
Jun 2014
#98
What we need to do is think out of the box: the old left/right paradigm doesn't work anymore
Jack Rabbit
Jun 2014
#103
I made the same point about Brat's ostensible economic stance the day after he won.
tblue37
Jun 2014
#112
So How Do We Encourage Those That Oppose Deregulation, And Keeping And Improving The Safety Net...
WillyT
Jun 2014
#126
There is so much spin out there it is impossible to discern what information should be believed
Samantha
Jun 2014
#133
HUGE, HUGE K&R Watch the patterns. These are signs that we can become the 99 percent.
woo me with science
Jun 2014
#136