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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
57. What an ignorant "statetment"
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

It's ironic that, in this society, if one is born into wealth - say, a great inheritance, nobody gives a shit that they have an iphone, three houses, a butler, an offshore tax haven. We don't glare at them and say "How dare you spend your money that way!" On the contrary, society serves them. When they enter a restaurant, no one is ever going to look at them askance because they can't afford decent clothing (can I take your coat and kiss your ass at the same time, please?). No one will ever deny them a job for being wealthy (your dad and I were frat brothers! Welcome aboard!). No bank will deny their loans (can we please give you more?), no case worker will make them jump through hoops. Business, society, education... healthcare... everything caters to - and ultimately serves the wealthy. Wealth is no virtue in and of itself, it is no indication of anything other than wealth itself. Yet somehow society treats it as if it were the ONLY virtue.

Yet all the same, even if they never work a day in their lives, they are rarely if ever judged for spending their money on things they don't need.

Some times people who don't have much money can buy things that look nice. We shop at Catholic Charities, at the Salvation Army, at Walmart (it's evil, but it's cheap), at secondhand stores. Some times people who are poor even get gifts from people who are not as poor. Even electronic toys that they might enjoy playing with. God forbid that they should have anything more than a pot to piss in.

You know, if our noble, Godlike, overwhelmingly awesome beautiful and glorious worshipful "job creators" more generally paid a living wage, or had a little charity and generosity within them, maybe people wouldn't be so poor that they could not afford an iphone. If the Koch brothers, for instance, spent a little less money lobbying for big oil and the Republican machine - and paid their workers a bit more, maybe we would have fewer people who would end up needing food stamps, welfare, or medicaid.

The left is being seduced by the right, into being angry at the wrong people. For every dollar spent on food stamps, how much do we spend on corporate welfare? For every dollar spent on healthcare, how much do we pour into military projects that never bear fruit? Food stamps are awful, somehow, but the politicians who spend thousands of dollars on a tax-payer funded dinner? Eh, who gives a shit.

How about that fifty thousand dollar a plate dinner where Mitt Romney called half the American people "takers"? How about grand old Bush, Mr. "My favorite people! The Haves and the Have Mores! I'm going to give you guys enormous tax cuts, start a war, and cut the hell out of our safety net! Woohoo! Jesus loves me!"

If you can afford to bitch about people on welfare, maybe you don't really understand poverty and should stop bitching. If you can afford to grumble about people who need food stamps, maybe you aren't hungry or near starving. Maybe your family has plenty of food - that's great, but shut the hell up about those of us who are struggling.

The wealthy (with some few exceptions) seem often to be far more guilty of greed, ignorance, selfishness - and frivolous spending, than any amount of poor people. I could go on for hours, even days, about their crackpot theories and notions of who deserves what. I could go on at the same length about their sense of entitlement, the stupid, frivolous things they buy, the way they treat their employees, the way they treat the environment, the way they treat the world. Hell, I think I will. If we're going to be mad at someone, shouldn't it be the people who have destroyed our economy, led us into a trillion dollar, illegal war, evaded paying taxes, collapsed the economy of the whole damn world... I could go on and on.

Wealth is neither virtue nor sin. At the same time - there is nothing wrong with being poor and needing help. Food stamps are not necessary because of character flaws, but because of poverty. I tell you what, the next time you bitch about someone poor having an iphone, ask yourself if rich people who pay no taxes should be able to have two or three mansions. Ask yourself who you should really be angry at - and why.

Great Post! Well worth reading the entirety! etherealtruth Jun 2014 #1
Knr roody Jun 2014 #2
they are me. i remember wanting my own nickel. roguevalley Jun 2014 #3
I just wanted a pair of shoes that Skidmore Jun 2014 #4
I know. I actually wore shoes with card board inside to plug the holes. roguevalley Jun 2014 #30
Me too. PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #52
because unlike them, you are good folks, PumpkinAle roguevalley Jun 2014 #82
THANKS A BUNCH, Heritage Foundation, alp227 Jun 2014 #5
Please clarify. Skidmore Jun 2014 #7
I think this is what the poster is talking about. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #9
Isn't Heritage Foundation the ones furthering the idea that they can make better people than you? jtuck004 Jun 2014 #19
If the Heritage Foundation had bullsnarfle Jun 2014 #43
A smartphone is a cheap way to check your email for the job applications you sent, manage your money Brickbat Jun 2014 #6
The only way to keep your unemployment in Florida is online. Think about that one. Lochloosa Jun 2014 #8
K&R.... 1monster Jun 2014 #10
I got my brand new iPhone4, Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #99
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #12
My daughter got an iPhone from someone who was throwing their old one away. gtar100 Jun 2014 #13
"There is no way of knowing the whole story behind any possession if you never ask." Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #34
True catrose Jun 2014 #80
It is so sad that our society teaches people to be this mean-spirited and competitive Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #95
I hate this shit Prophet 451 Jun 2014 #14
Amen...could not agree more. Moostache Jun 2014 #86
When you're bitterly underedumacated and can't spell 'statement'... TeeYiYi Jun 2014 #15
Big K&R for that. dgauss Jun 2014 #16
Thanks Skidmore. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #17
I'm poor smallcat88 Jun 2014 #18
It's MORE than just Ignorance. Ignorance can be cured. But psychopathy Demeter Jun 2014 #20
Iphones have been around since the betterdemsonly Jun 2014 #21
powerful post Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #22
What's the first thing that comes to mind... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #23
Also, if you can't even spell statement... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #24
is it proper english to end a sentence with thereof? n/t. airplaneman Jun 2014 #26
Yes it is proper English. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #38
thereof is an adverb, not a preposition. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #56
so a preposition is not something to end a sentence with. n/t. airplaneman Jun 2014 #96
I prefer to end them with propositions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #97
MAJOR K&R - this post is THE SHIT . . . hatrack Jun 2014 #25
Don't say you see it if you don't. very nice, don't miss it. nt edgineered Jun 2014 #27
Said the person who never wanted for anything in their life. Egnever Jun 2014 #28
awful that some people are so hateful noiretextatique Jun 2014 #29
As much as I don't like Apple's business practices, Apple products are great for disabled people. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #31
We use an iPhone for a communication device... Blanks Jun 2014 #81
The deadly sin of envy. ChazII Jun 2014 #32
K & R - I haven't identified with a post this much in a long time. Raksha Jun 2014 #33
A smartphone might be the only communication device for many IronLionZion Jun 2014 #35
Spot on!! mcp37 Jun 2014 #37
In most states, the landlord is required to provide a fridge by law. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #68
In Most States refrigerator is NOT required to be provided by the landlord happyslug Jun 2014 #73
You have run across none, I've run across it in every single one. jeff47 Jun 2014 #83
According to the NY State AG, only if the landlord had them installed... happyslug Jun 2014 #88
It would be wise to be more cautious with Internet sources. jeff47 Jun 2014 #91
Tenants break lease do to insect infestation? Try that sometime.... happyslug Jun 2014 #98
And people need a phone number to find a job gollygee Jun 2014 #42
...and a regular cheap cell phone won't do? L0oniX Jun 2014 #46
Not all iPhones are expensive gollygee Jun 2014 #47
There are phones with plans for poor people and the elderly starting at $9.95 a month... L0oniX Jun 2014 #51
Data can be had for as little as $3 IronLionZion Jun 2014 #53
You don't need to micromanage everyone else's financial choices gollygee Jun 2014 #58
Save your keyboard. I'm not "micromanage"ing everyone else no matter why you want to imply that crap L0oniX Jun 2014 #61
Well, you are insisting that they purchase the phone you chose for them. jeff47 Jun 2014 #67
I insisted nothing. Thanks for playing. L0oniX Jun 2014 #70
You just brought it up over and over and over again jeff47 Jun 2014 #71
"brought it up over and over and over again" OFFS hyper much? L0oniX Jun 2014 #77
Well, it's the vast majority of your posts in this thread jeff47 Jun 2014 #85
"vast majority" more hyper crap ...is that the "vast majority" of what you always do ...forever? L0oniX Jun 2014 #92
And then you take the SIM card out of that phone and put it in jeff47 Jun 2014 #66
You can get used smartphones fairly cheaply IronLionZion Jun 2014 #50
I'd imagine one would need to posses all relevant knowledge LanternWaste Jun 2014 #59
I guess they would also be with out a tv that has commercials for the $9.95 phones. L0oniX Jun 2014 #63
Why should it have to do if.... moriah Jun 2014 #89
My first iPhone was free. Granny M Jun 2014 #36
Exactly, those tax loopholes are costly and make their % of tax less than the avg person.. N/t glowing Jun 2014 #41
It always hurts them when they find out they're no better than poor people. Iggo Jun 2014 #39
^^That. Orrex Jun 2014 #45
This is it . . . JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #54
^Yes^ nt IronLionZion Jun 2014 #84
I can't imagine being a kid & growing up with this attitude directed at you: CrispyQ Jun 2014 #40
When you have money for cigarettes but none for food... L0oniX Jun 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author gollygee Jun 2014 #48
As I said in the last post, as long as any kids have enough to eat.... moriah Jun 2014 #90
I sure as hell hope that they're setting aside $1000 per month for retirement Orrex Jun 2014 #49
Maybe they were not poor when they got the I-Phone liberal N proud Jun 2014 #55
What an ignorant "statetment" davidthegnome Jun 2014 #57
This. So much. historylovr Jun 2014 #78
everything about this is so damn good renate Jun 2014 #87
Toys for tots gives out Playstations. muntrv Jun 2014 #60
Hey Billo, the poor people did not buy the fridge, the property owners did. And as for the flat muntrv Jun 2014 #62
When I was homeless, I was called "fake" because I wasn't "dirty enough". riqster Jun 2014 #64
iPhones start at $0, Falafel Loofah... onehandle Jun 2014 #65
I'm always amazed by how judgmental people are- including some here. missingthebigdog Jun 2014 #69
It takes a special, stupid kind of mean... Orsino Jun 2014 #72
Actually, it's not about wanting the poor to show themselves to be poor in rags and such.... Moonwalk Jun 2014 #74
People are such assholes. blackspade Jun 2014 #75
Lets all hate each other get the red out Jun 2014 #76
Example 564738384 of why I love Tumblr. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #79
Given some of DU's current outrage, ironic that "thegodlessatheist" was the one... Hekate Jun 2014 #93
I've been living solely off disability for 6 years now, LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #94
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