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In reply to the discussion: Reid: Obama Doesn't Need Advice On Iraq From Dick Cheney [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)"But his vote still makes him culpable in what happened."
...one who believed that Bush/Cheney should get a pass. I don't blame everyone who voted for the IWR (some of them would have followed the same path, some would have been a hell of a lot more responsible) for the Bush launching the war.
Does anyone believe that with the information coming out after the IWR vote, any other President/VP would have, like the Bush administration, simply ignored the fact that they could be wrong and introduce new lies to rush to invade Iraq?
Bush's 16 words still hotly debated
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/07/20/sprj.irq.wmd.investigation/
How Powerful Can 16 Words Be?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0720-09.htm
Is there a more blatant example of callousness and manipulativeness than the depravity of launching an invasion based on your own lie?
'Wrong war at the wrong time'
By Sean Loughlin
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a stinging rebuke of the Bush administration's foreign policy, Sen. Edward Kennedy predicted Tuesday that a military strike against Iraq would "undermine" the war against terrorism, "feed a rising tide of anti-Americanism overseas" and strain diplomatic ties.
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Kennedy said U.N. weapons inspectors need more time to discover what kind of weapons Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein may be amassing in Iraq.
Bush, however, said Tuesday that Saddam was not disarming his nation and was giving the world community "the runaround." (Full story) ...But in an interview with CNN, Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, urged the Bush administration not to rush toward any confrontation with Iraq.
"We need to be patient here; time is on our side here," Hagel said. He added that a "precipitous" move would "endanger not just Americans around the world, but it would endanger this country, our security, stability in the world for a long time to come because we were rash in using our power."
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/21/kennedy.speech/index.html
Had these warmongers listened to Kennedy, even Hagel, an waited a few months, the lies would have been destroyed.
Bush/Cheney weren't interested in the truth. They propagated the lies.