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RainDog

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Sat Jun 28, 2014, 11:54 PM Jun 2014

Here's how to change the world [View all]

Education is important - but it's not necessary to change the world. Education performs an important function for those who want to explain something to her/his rational mind. But education is not enough to change the world.

Positive Messages are important - but they're not enough to change the world. They, however, are VASTLY important to create change - but the reason for this may not be what you think.

Negative messages do not promote change. The reason for this is because they invalidate the one actual way to create change.

People say different things motivate them to change, or to create change. However social science research has indicated one way that change actually occurs.

The one, demonstrated, way to create change is to let your peers, your politicians, your family members know that others support this change or behavior or action and are acting upon this support.

That's the truth. Herd behavior explains our positive and negative actions. Sadly. (Someone posted a thread here that mentioned this in relation to torture - i.e. "nice" people who "go along" with society's dictates are most likely to torture people to death. The reason for their willingness is that they are part of the herd and i.d. as such by their cooperativeness.)

This is why negative messages are harmful, because they promote the herd belief that most people are involved in those negative behaviors. People aren't necessarily influenced by disgust from negative messages. They receive the information that their peers are engaged in those behaviors, so they're not motivated to change, either.

Positive messages work when they utilize the concept that others are engaged in the positive behavior (i.e. modeling).

So, while the rich guy talks about people coming with pitchforks, etc... he's talking about behavior - but his purpose - to raise the minimum wage - will be effective when those who agree with him raise their wages as modeling behavior for the capitalist herd. This modeled behavior is then one of those "of course" moments - tho, in this case, the effect of raising wages for one company would mean they would attract people before companies that did not raise wages.

Congress must treat capitalists as a horde of insensible animals who must be taught how to function in a democracy, because the principles that structure corporations are not the principles that undergird democracies. Education really doesn't matter in this case, because the basic issue is that the horde will not seek to alter its own behavior when the model for its behavior - the ayn-ti christ rand - or corporate structure - leads the herd to engage in harmful behaviors.

So, if you want to change the world - seek out people who are engaged in actions that do so. Tell others about those people. Help others to see that this change is what people are doing who are worth lauding in our society. (That would mean turning off "reality tv" entirely, btw). The herd will come along - and they'll also be the ones "tut-tut-ing" those who come after them, as a way for the "cooperators" to force the laggers.

fwiw.

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #1
I could post the references for the OP RainDog Jun 2014 #3
That might be cool for some members. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #4
sadly, the unethical experiment on fb confirms other research RainDog Jun 2014 #5
That doesn't surprise me you can see it here at D.U. as well, not from a top down manipulation Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #7
Big K&R! -nt Anansi1171 Jun 2014 #2
Idealistic nonsense BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #6
The Internet works toward reigning in the capitalists. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #8
They own the internet BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #11
We are the Internet, without us there is no Information Superhighway or it would be something Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #12
Irrelevant BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #14
When you say they are monitoring what does that mean other than listening? Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #19
So what? BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #21
Are you suggesting there are no good products or services? n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #22
I am saying without significant intervention BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #23
The masses both here and abroad that make up the Internet aren't static, we're not locked into a Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #26
And if we end up with a new form of feudalism? BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #27
We won't because that idea doesn't have enough merit supported by the people. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #28
Eh BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #30
How many people are on the Internet and what is a substantial portion? n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #31
Large enough to have a significant presence? BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #34
Extremists of all types exist, that's always been the case, but I have faith in the majority Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #36
Negative nonsense RainDog Jun 2014 #9
They are one entity BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #10
So how are you going to change the world? RainDog Jun 2014 #13
No change is likely forthcoming BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #15
So you offer nothing RainDog Jun 2014 #16
Hardly BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #17
How do you propose to do those things? RainDog Jun 2014 #18
?? BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #20
I didn't say I was idealistic RainDog Jun 2014 #24
Granted BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #25
What you advocate is a permanent state of terror RainDog Jun 2014 #29
Terror? BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #32
Well, in your utopia RainDog Jun 2014 #33
I'm not talking about communism here BlindTiresias Jun 2014 #35
K&R me b zola Jul 2014 #37
Seriously... ReRe Jul 2014 #38
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