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aint_no_life_nowhere

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41. I'm referring to the legal definition

Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:54 PM

Jul 2014

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You can call someone an economic refugee (broad sections of the world's population might be included), but to be included in the status of refugees or asylum seekers who will be granted indefinite stay under U.S. federal law, they must meet the definition of section 101(a)(42) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

Just so you know where I stand, I'm talking about 'what is', not how I wish things could be. I think very few of these kids will qualify for asylum or refugee status, if any. I wished we lived in a unified world without borders and maybe some day we will (although I fear that world will be controlled by corporations that will take the place of nations).

I agree with you about the term illegal aliens. It's not a legal term and I think it's dehumanizing. It's true that an alien's failure to present himself or herself at a border check point for inspection on entry to the U.S. is guilty of a misdemeanor. But to therefore call them "illegal aliens" for a mere misdemeanor is unfortunate in my opinion.

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Can we just call those kids "unaccompanied minors"? or "refugees"? [View all] Hekate Jul 2014 OP

Legally the name the news is using is correct yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #1

We stole this country from the Native Americans, we did it legally too, according to us randys1 Jul 2014 #2

And therefore we should have completely open borders. Throd Jul 2014 #3

No, we should give the land back and leave, or pay reparations beyond what we have randys1 Jul 2014 #4

I agree yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #5

Use our tax system to do it, go ahead and raise taxes randys1 Jul 2014 #8

Fine let's do it yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #13

Great plan! Throd Jul 2014 #9

Glad you agree randys1 Jul 2014 #11

Are you saying the children being discussed should be Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #22

This may come as news to you but -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #14

those children stole the land they are fleeing? randys1 Jul 2014 #16

No, but neither did the Americans currently living here who were once children here. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #19

Am I on Discussionist again, shoot, i mess that up sometimes randys1 Jul 2014 #21

If you're going to continue to blame every non-Native American for the crimes of our ancestors NuclearDem Jul 2014 #25

USA owes Native Americans and African Americans, period...has nothing to do with opinion randys1 Jul 2014 #26

Associated press banned the use of the term a year ago. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #7

Minors are not able to enter into a contract. They are not adults. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #15

Not necessarily treestar Jul 2014 #28

I agree, TBH. AverageJoe90 Jul 2014 #6

I prefer unauthorized immigrant. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #10

Children in need, no reason to say anything else randys1 Jul 2014 #12

Perhaps you can run for President yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #17

No wonder this country is going into the toilet, so called liberals defending the reason randys1 Jul 2014 #18

Probably confusing form and substance. Igel Jul 2014 #35

I don't think so. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #20

Jesus...i give up randys1 Jul 2014 #23

One doesn't have to hide from the fact that the children didn't immigrant through regular processes aikoaiko Jul 2014 #24

Apparently Chris Hayes heard me thinking. His program, which is on as I write this... Hekate Jul 2014 #27

I'm rather shocked by the responses to your entirely reasonable OP. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #30

Agreed. H2O Man Jul 2014 #31

That all depends on whether there's anyone here who can still tell the difference. scarletwoman Jul 2014 #32

Very good! H2O Man Jul 2014 #29

Perfect! It's appalling how these children who are fleeing csziggy Jul 2014 #33

I also prefer "refugees" or "unaccompanied minors." These children are refugees and Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #34

If another country's citizens acted like those of Murietta csziggy Jul 2014 #36

Agreed. In any other country they would simply be called refugees. theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #42

Unfortunately they probably don't fall under the legal definition of refugees aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #37

I heard that the UN made a comment to the US about the "refugees on our border"? Hekate Jul 2014 #38

I'm referring to the legal definition aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #41

The fact is their countries are in the state they are in largely because of the US alarimer Jul 2014 #39

+1 Hekate Jul 2014 #40

+1000. Agreed completely. And we are culpable for the chaos in their home states riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #43